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Sticky / Gummy chamber ?

DLT

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I picked up a new savage fv sr 22lr. First few hundred rounds I didn’t have any problems, was cleaning it fairly regularly. I was using mostly cci standard velocity and switched to Aguila back and forth between the two shooting groups at 50 and steel at various distances. I first noticed it while shooting aguila it would fail to extract so I would take my rod from muzzle end to tap out the case. I cleaned it best I could and less than 100 rounds later it was doing the same thing with aguila and my cci. I feel like it’s happening sooner and sooner between cleanings. I don’t think it’s a extractor problem. Using my fingers to push in a fired case into the chamber I can feel how snug it is. Is this common ? In my childhood I just shot and shot and shot 22lr without a care in the world about cleaning. Now im older and been through bolt guns and trying to get back into playing with 22lr and this happens.
 
Also I would have cleaned it for fouling. But I have seen some fouling from s6ammo come on very quickly.
I'm a little new with this. 22lr stuff myself.
 
It almost sounds like you may have a snug chamber and have a bit of carbon buildup in it. I have never had an issue with either of the ammos you mentioned being greasy or contributing to a buildup in the chamber.

1 - Get a good bronze brush and clean the chamber using Hoppes or the solvent of your choice. After the brushing be sure to use a patch to dry out the chamber.
2 - Check underneath the ejector hook to see if it has any buildup, if so remove it.

drover
 
.22 seems to be more prone to gummy accumulation than anything else, I gather a combination of size (the relative size of the dirt is larger than the same ickiness for a larger caliber), and bullet lube which I am not sure every normal gun cleaning solvent handles properly. Also as said above, tons of cleaners leave their own residue and if you didn't /scrupulously/ clean such as the corners of the tiny chamber, that combines with the carbon and bullet lube and... goo.

Would help to start to know what your cleaning/lubrication materials are. One of them may specifically be the issue.

If it was used, I'd say start from scratch, do a mineral spirits cleaning then an alcohol or similar degrease cleaning then apply your oil of choice, let soak a day, wipe off, reapply where dry. But new... I'm back to worrying you use WD40 or are using a light oil based cleaner (e.g. Hoppes #9) /only/.
 
I had trouble with CCI standard 22LR. The waxy coating would gum up the chamber. After 10 rounds it would be hard to chamber a round and extract. I was shooting a W 52-B.
 
.22 seems to be more prone to gummy accumulation than anything else, I gather a combination of size (the relative size of the dirt is larger than the same ickiness for a larger caliber), and bullet lube which I am not sure every normal gun cleaning solvent handles properly. Also as said above, tons of cleaners leave their own residue and if you didn't /scrupulously/ clean such as the corners of the tiny chamber, that combines with the carbon and bullet lube and... goo.

Would help to start to know what your cleaning/lubrication materials are. One of them may specifically be the issue.

If it was used, I'd say start from scratch, do a mineral spirits cleaning then an alcohol or similar degrease cleaning then apply your oil of choice, let soak a day, wipe off, reapply where dry. But new... I'm back to worrying you use WD40 or are using a light oil based cleaner (e.g. Hoppes #9) /only/.
I used Montana extreme bore cleaner. Then a dry patches until they came out dry, then rem oil aerosol on a patch to neutralize any left over then more dry patches. But I did not study hard on getting the chamber completely dry. I just assumed it was.

Back to your post you said “clean with mineral spirits” clean what? the chamber and bore ? Then apply oil, soak a day, wipe off, reapply where dry ? Do a walk through for me and why. Thanks. I have hopes #9 bore cleaner and their oil
 
Ah ha! I do not trust Rem Oil. It used to be a very good, very specific (if light) oil, not unlike trusting 3-in-1. It is for a decade or more now, and esp for the aerosol, a contract item with a Rem Oil label, that varies periodically as they find someone to make it cheaper. People who know oils like for a living have done some chemical analysis and its full of random junk like indeed waxes that look good on surfaces but build up. Relegate it to lawn mower repair.

Hoppes Lubricating Oil /appears/ to still be a legit product. A bit light for my tastes, but probably a reasonable enough thing. Use that since you have it.

What my suggestion involved was removing /every bit/ of oil, grease, wax, etc from the action, bore, and chamber. The usual method is generally: solvent > degreaser. In the old days we'd use kerosene as the solvent, but mineral spirits is a bit safer. You can use either.

Use that as the cleaner with the above suggestions. Both normal cleaning cycle, and add in a chamber brush specifically. You'll want something that rotates in the chamber to be sure you are scrubbing the whole chamber and not leaving anything on the shoulder, assure no ring build up on the lede. Usually chamber brushes are bronze, and this is fine. Have heard of people who shoot thousands of rounds of .22 a year and chamber brush every 50 with no ill effects.

(Agree, ideally you get a borescope, the Teslong is awful nice and cheap, to inspect all this work as well as diagnose but otherwise just be very scrupulous).

Anyway, then normal cleaning with rags or whatever for the action, patches for the bore, with denatured alcohol to remove the mineral spirits. Then run a single patch of oil down the bore, wipe down the rest of the works (esp any in the white parts!) and the next day wipe down with dry patch/cloth, reassemble.

Yeah, that's involved, lots of people ignore me and shortcut things with no ill effects. You can likely just do the chamber clean with an oil change and it will also work.
 

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