Speaking of rebated boattails....

[Mikey_P]

@jackieschmidt has a post going about his 6mm rebated boattail project and in that thread people also mention the Lapua D46 design. This got me thinking about some old Hornady .30 cal rebated boattails that I have kicking around. I took several hundred of these in a trade so long ago that I can't remember what I had traded them for. They're 168gr and with a load of IMR4064 they shoot great out of my Savage Palma with a 1-13" barrel.

Can anybody give me an idea as to just how old these might be? I've included some pics. The box looks "vintage".

Thanks and a Merry Christmas to all!

Mike

 

[Tommie]

Cool. Didn’t know Hornady ever made rebated boat tails.

 

[ShtrRdy]

The box looks like 70's and possibly older.

 

[Laurie]

Cool. Didn’t know Hornady ever made rebated boat tails.

They may not have been made by Hornady. Speer bought in .30-calibre Lapua match bullets for many years and sold them under its own name. That would be until around 40 years ago. It's possible Hornady did something similar with another manufacturer - if so, I'd expect them to date from the 70s or thereabouts. Certainly by the mid 80s, Hornady's thirty-cal 168 HPBT Match had a conventional boat-tail configuration.

(The other reason may be that as the rebated form is easier to make, this was Hornady's first 'go' at producing a .308 168 BT Match. IIRC Sierra's 168 was introduced around 1966 and was initially called the 'International'. It soon became so successful, that other bullet makers had to get on the bandwagon and make something similar or lose out on sales.)

 

[Fuj]

Here's a download pic of a 1980's era Hornady display board.
It does show two 30 cal RBBT's. My 1975 Hornady loading
edition only shows standard boat tails. Anybody can confirm
with later editions on up of the rebates ??

 

[GotRDid]

Have some of both from that era.
Mitch Maxberry was my Team Captain way back when in the late 80s when I shot for the KY State High Power Team. Mitch went on to be recruited for the Palma Team for New Zealand (IIRC). He sold off all his component bullets from when he was sponsored by Lapua. He also had a case of 5K of the above 170 Rebated Boat Tails, but I only bought the “loose” boxes (note price on Lapuas). Also bought the 3 remaining boxes of 185 gr Lapua FMJRBTs.

 

[sparker]

@jackieschmidt has a post going about his 6mm rebated boattail project and in that thread people also mention the Lapua D46 design. This got me thinking about some old Hornady .30 cal rebated boattails that I have kicking around. I took several hundred of these in a trade so long ago that I can't remember what I had traded them for. They're 168gr and with a load of IMR4064 they shoot great out of my Savage Palma with a 1-13" barrel.

Can anybody give me an idea as to just how old these might be? I've included some pics. The box looks "vintage".

Thanks and a Merry Christmas to all!

MikeView attachment 1505424View attachment 1505425

A very streamlined bullet for its time.

 

[brcman]

I believe that George Ulrich made some 6MM match dies with this type of boattail about 5 or 10 years ago.

 

[sparker]

Here's a download pic of a 1980's era Hornady display board.
It does show two 30 cal RBBT's. My 1975 Hornady loading
edition only shows standard boat tails. Anybody can confirm
with later editions on up of the rebates ??

That 190 gr. Is gorgeous!!!

 

[Mikey_P]

Thanks, everybody, for your input. Very educational! The depth of knowledge on this forum is truly astounding!

Mike

 

[Will Henry]

The 162 gr Hornady 7mm (c. 1976) bullets started out as a rebated boattail. My Dad made rebated boattails in 6.5 (144) and 30 cal. He had trouble with some of the early 30's because the rebated punch was too sharp and weakened the jacket at the transition; a new punch seemed to fix the problem. I have his dies and stuff but just have not found the time to make any. The fact that I can usually buy bullets cheaper than I could make them plays a part! WH

 

[Bigeyeshunter]

I shot a lot of the 7MM 162 Hornady bullets in the 1970ies at Williamsport. Rebated and regular boat tail HP. Nephew won a score aggregate with them.

Lowell

 

[Fuj]

I shot quite a few 162 Hornady boat tail and have never heard or
have seen them in a rebated configuration. They must have been
a custom push after the fact.....Note....Some of these bullets are not
a true hollow point but a FMJ with exposed lead bottom.

 

[GotRDid]

I shot quite a few 162 Hornady boat tail and have never heard or
have seen them in a rebated configuration. They must have been
a custom push after the fact.....Note....Some of these bullets are not
a true hollow point but a FMJ with exposed lead bottom.

As noted in my images and text.

 

[GotRDid]

Lapua got away from the rebated boat tails, but still make a FMJ in a “Lock Base” configuration. It has been remarkably accurate in my M1A.

11,0 g / 170 gr Lock Base B476

Lapua’s Lock Base bullet is a Lapua innovation which combines a full metal jacket and boat tail with a patented base design. This rifle bullet is suitable for mid-range and long range shooting and it…

www.lapua.com

 

[Fuj]

I believe Lapua still makes the D46 FMJ-RBT.

 

[Laurie]

I believe Lapua still makes the D46 FMJ-RBT.

Yes, they still list it. I still have a few hundred in a cupboard somewhere despite selling most of what I had to a historic arms shooting friend who has a very good US M1917 Enfield.

 

[SteveOak]

DTAC's

 

[jghoghunter]

I had Hornady 190's that were rebated from the same era that shot fantastic.

 

[GotRDid]

Lapua got away from the rebated boat tails, but still make a FMJ in a “Lock Base” configuration. It has been remarkably accurate in my M1A.

11,0 g / 170 gr Lock Base B476

Lapua’s Lock Base bullet is a Lapua innovation which combines a full metal jacket and boat tail with a patented base design. This rifle bullet is suitable for mid-range and long range shooting and it…

www.lapua.com

I stand corrected, Sir.