Source for a .010 over rem-age nut?

[Shawnba67]

I really don't like the prospect of trying to open up a remage nut in the lathe. Is there a supplier that makes are can make a .010 over remage nut? My shooting buddy wants his rifle trued and remage'd.
If one doesn't exist we can always leave the threads as is and go for it. Lol

 

[Ggmac]

It may be easier to make one from scratch than to try to enlarge a hardened nut . Use an old barrel blank , I use stainless or 4140 shot gun barrel blanks from Sarco ($20) 1.3 -30", time and drill a whole 1/4" and use a pin wrench . I time it so the hole is at 6:00 .

 

[jkohler]

Not being rude but why do people like doing the hole barrel nut deal instead of just a shouldered barrel?

 

[savagedasher]

Not being rude but why do people like doing the hole barrel nut deal instead of just a shouldered barrel?

 

[hoz53]

Not being rude but why do people like doing the hole barrel nut deal instead of just a shouldered barrel?

Because they don't have access to a lathe to do the work. You can buy a drop in Remage barrel for 300.00 and even with the nut and wrench spend less than 400 to rebarrel your rifle when you want to instead of waiting to get your barrel chambered and paying more. I don't think the quality of the chamber is quite as good but many people have pretty good luck with drop in barrels. I have a Shilen select match small shank savage barrel that is a shooter. It's the way I'd do it if I didn't have a lathe.

 

[jkohler]

If that's the case the OP better leave it a standard thread as I've never seen one offered in .010 over. But I've been wrong lots

 

[savagedasher]

I shoot a savage large shank And I have my nut built 80thousads of larger then a standard nut OD because I don't feel a standard 1.125 barrel has enough diameter for a shoulder.
Happy New Year Larry

 

[jkohler]

They way I take it he's taking about truing up the threads in the action. Not a bigger OD on the nut. That's .010 oversized on the threads

 

[savagedasher]

They way I take it he's taking about truing up the threads in the action. Not a bigger OD on the nut. That's .010 oversized on the threads

Thats how I seen it and what I was saying the nut - have a new one made.
And the answer to why would you use a nut to start with - my answer covered that . Also
Happy New Year Larry

 

[jkohler]

I seen OD on your post nothing about thread size so sorry Larry. Like I said I've personally never seen a oversized pre threaded barrels offered

 

[savagedasher]

I seen OD on your post nothing about thread size so sorry Larry. Like I said I've personally never seen a oversized pre threaded barrels offered

I haven't also

 

[jkohler]

That's was my point. If your going to true up the threads in the action your not going to run prechambered and threaded barrels.

 

[savagedasher]

That's was my point. If your going to true up the threads in the action your not going to run prechambered and threaded barrels.

I wonder when you have a action trued how could it be done without trued whthout includeing the threads .
Happy New Year Larry

 

[Shawnba67]

That's was my point. If your going to true up the threads in the action your not going to run prechambered and threaded barrels.

I missed that one in the rule book, good catch.

 

[Ggmac]

It's NOT hard to make a nut . It's more time consuming to try enlarging a std nut .

 

[Steve Ladino]

I wonder when you have a action trued how could it be done without trued whthout includeing the threads .
Happy New Year Larry

A factory Rem. 40XBR I disassembled had the tenon threads slightly tapered towards the hole so that the barrel was loose until the final threading tightened up the fit. I figured this was a way that the Rem. Custom Shop dealt with thread irregularity, off axis situations as a matter of course.

 

[TRA]

Not being rude but why do people like doing the hole barrel nut deal instead of just a shouldered barrel?

My take is there's going to be a large number of shooters go with Remage barrels in the future. Everyday there's new guys who found a lathe in their garage and are now going to become a master level rifle rebarreler. A lot of these cottage gun shops do mighty fine work, a lot of them don't. Now throw in the 3-400.00 blank and the machine charge of up to 400.00 like I'm seeing.....PLUS the wait that can easily run 12 months, and shipping and handling +tax..... going to a Remage type systems seems to be an acceptable way to acquire a quality accurate rifle , and get it now and my money thinks the gun will shoot well over the capabilities of the advanced hobbyist.

The super high end guns being sold to countries and contractors have become not much less than a glorified swiss army knife, that launches bullets. The system works and unless you are planning on shooting .1-.2 aggs, these barrel nut systems are going to be the go to for the majority of recreational shooters. Most of who are and will continue to be addicted to shooting steel.

I realize that the barrel and nut system may not appeal to some, but when it comes to any high performance application the threaded barrel with a locking nut is the preferred method.

I could see a machine purpose built to thread and chamber barrels and for most enthusiasts waiting a year or more for a barrel.... be over with.

When a threaded assembly is made similar to the way a barrel is threaded into a receiver that , from an engineering standpoint, is suspect. Only a few threads are carrying the whole load. Part of the problem comes from the irregularities of the thread pitch and from the irregularities in the profile, and helix.

Maybe our pal AL will build two identical quality guns, wear them out, and show us just what that 1000.00 barrel and a year wait is really worth.

 

[jfseaman]

I'm with @TRA except on the thread load and pitch irregularities and profile. The purpose of the barrel nut is to be a "jam nut" and square the barrel.

I really don't like the prospect of trying to open up a remage nut in the lathe. Is there a supplier that makes are can make a .010 over remage nut? My shooting buddy wants his rifle trued and remage'd.
If one doesn't exist we can always leave the threads as is and go for it. Lol

Not all truing jobs require recutting the threads. IMO, it is to be avoided. It is important to true the face of the receiver as R700 are notorious for being a bit agricultural. Just because it's "trued", IMO does not mean it's improved. Making it unique in dimensions to all other R700 will be a PIA in the future.

Starting with a "trued" custom/boutique action may be a better choice. Those that use the R700 spec barrel tenon can have "barrel nut" barrels installed.

Of course all this makes me want to go to GS school even more than I already do.

 

[savagedasher]

I'm with @TRA except on the thread load and pitch irregularities and profile. The purpose of the barrel nut is to be a "jam nut" and square the barrel.
Not all truing jobs require recutting the threads. IMO, it is to be avoided. It is important to true the face of the receiver as R700 are notorious for being a bit agricultural. Just because it's "trued", IMO does not mean it's improved. Making it unique in dimensions to all other R700 will be a PIA in the future.

Starting with a "trued" custom/boutique action may be a better choice. Those that use the R700 spec barrel tenon can have "barrel nut" barrels installed.

Of course all this makes me want to go to GS school even more than I already do.

Why would someone call it a trued action if the threads wasn't trued? Larry

 

[jfseaman]

Why would someone call it a trued action if the threads wasn't trued? Larry

How much truing is needed.

Is it automatic that the threads are not concentric to the bolt way?

Are you a gunsmith with this as a potential jobs. Sorry, I didn't mean to take food out of your mouth.