Source for 6BR Norma loads

[Williamb]

Once again I find myself in a confused state. I am just gearing up to load for 6BR Norma. Seems like I can only find published information from powder and bullet companies for the 6BR Remington.

I have reviewed the "6mmBR Cartridge Guide" on this site. It has a link to the Sierra Load Map which is not 6mmBR Norma but 6BR Remington. I am coming to the conclusion that the 6BR Remington can be used as a starting guide - but I am not sure.

Can someone let me know if the 6BR Norma has published loads in a reloading manual or does one just use the Remington info. Additionally if you use the Remington info is the trim-to-length the same?

Lastly, the "6mmBR Cartridge Guide" has lots of load recommendations. I assume it would be prudent to work up to those loads by starting a few grains less?

Thanks for the help?

William

 

[FroggyOne2]

William.. I believe that you have already figured it out!

 

[Williamb]

Froggy -

Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[rayjay]

I had a Savage with a 12 twist SSS/Douglas. My 'comp load' was 30 gr of Varget with an 80 gr Berger just like the home page recommends I was .005 into the lands. Consistent 3's and 4's. A .4071 was my best 100/200 agg. At that match at 100 I had two .2's, two .3's and a .7 at 100.

 

[Williamb]

Thanks for all the replies. After doing multiple searches on this and other web-sites it appears that their is limited published information from either powder or bullet manufacturers for the 6BR Norma. I was able to find some information on both the Norma and Lapua web-site.

I am just wondering why the powder / bullet manufacturers have not developed and published loads? Particularly in light of the popularity of the cartridge and its success. Any ideas?

Thanks -

 

[Twud]

Have you tried Hodgdon's page?

 

[Williamb]

Twud -

Hodgdon is a no go - only Remington not Norma loads. No biggie but I'm surprised. For example with the popularity of Varget you would think they would have some published loads.

William

 

[rayjay]

Dude, You have a 6mmBR Remington [norma].

Forget the norma part and go with the 6mmbr remington load data. There are pages of it.

The only thing you have to worry about is the trim length. Use what is listed on this site's homepage.

 

[Williamb]

rayjay -

Still learning about the cartridge. I thought the Remington loads were light for the norma cartridge. I compared a number of the ones recommended on this site's cartridge write-up to published Remington loads which seemed to confirm my understanding that the Remington loads may not go as high as the ones actually used /recommended.


William

 

[Williamb]

gunamonth -

Please don't misinterpret my comments. I'm not insisting on anything. I was just stating an observation toward the end of the thread about published loads and my surprise that that the majors don't have published info specifically for norma. Particularly when you look at some of the cartridges they do include.

I'm a believer in the Socratic method of learning as an adjunct to acquire knowledge. Seems to have worked since Socrates. The 6BR is not as an intuitive cartridge to load for as say the more common ones such as the 45ACP, 45-70 or the 308, etc. Particularly with the inconsistent nomenclature used. Seems like a lot of 6BR reloading newbies have some confusion at first. The learning curve can be steep and slippery. Better to ask the question or state the obvious then to have a reloading mishap.

Not sure my salutation should be my normal "Thanks" as I was scolded for using it not long ago. But I do appreciate all replies.

Thanks

 

[rayjay]

It IS distressing to someone new to the cartridge. When your dies show up marked 6BR Remington you really start to worry. As long as you are not buying 20 year old stuff you are ok.

 

[expiper]

HI Bill ....I shot beside Socretiez,sp) at the nationals a cupla yrs ago...and he was shootin a PPC..hahaah Just chekin to see if u have a sense of humor....I have been a student of the "BR" for some time now and feel you pain...I think a lot of load data that is published in "Reloading Manuals" was developed using the original Remington configuaration,,which dimensionally is very similar --as you well know ..different trim length,,large flash hole,.080) and different case head dia. at the .200 line))but used the inferior metalurgical Rem case that was like it was made out of Aluminum/or old melted soup cans!! Sooo you will get input from everyone that shoots a modern day Lapua case marked "Norma BR" that will function reliably at much higher case pressures ....My best recomendation is look at the winning loads and use a lil discresion and always wear your safety glasses.....this BR is one of best,most reliable, target rounds to ever come down the pike....I shur wuldnt be without one...Roger

 

[Williamb]

Roger

Wondering if Socrates was still in his bathrobe when you saw him.

I appreciate your response - thanks,oops I used that word again)

William

 

[GaCop]

New to loading for the Norma BR cartridge. One thing I've noticed is overall cartridge length for the Remington BR data is WAY too short for loads in the Norma.

Tom

 

[JFMorgan]

Tom and William,

I am surprised that no one has sent you to what's available on this website. Go back to the home page, on the left side you will see several topics. Click on 6Br info. There is a ton of information on the 6Br along with proven load data. Read the interviews and comments by several record holders. Most of your questions will have an answer.

Jim

 

[Williamb]

Jim -

I'm fine. Been reloading this cartridge for a number of months now with only good results.

Thanks -