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[diego-ted]

I use a Sinclair bipod with Alton Feet on top of a synthetic carpet attached to plywood as shown below. I use a protector rear bag filled very tightly with heavy sand. Up until now I have attempted to interact with the rifle as little as possible, shooting with no grip and very light cheek pressure. I just slide my shoulder up to the butt until it grazes it. I have a problem with the gun control resulting in fliers to the right and high. I am examining my set-up of body position as I come up to the rifle, trying to insure the butt is in the shoulder pocket.

What I am asking is this, those who have successfully mastered this style of shooting could you write down how you approach the rifle, what is your hold grip if any and how do you place your cheek and lastly how do you handle recoil. What have you found that works for you?

thx for the help

Diego.

 

[boltman223]

Hi Diego, I use a Sinclair also but, with the stock feet. I have had better luck with puting shoulder pressure into the butt stock. I don't grip the rifle tight, I actually pull it into my shoulder slightly with my pinky and ring finger, not a lot of force just slight pressure. And I also lightly put my cheek on the stock. I can't say I've mastered my shooting position and never get a flyer but, when I do I know it's from a lack of attention and not doing things the same every time. I have tried both and this is what works best for me.

 

[M99]

I use the stock feet and found through trial and error, that what worked much better for me, was putting a slippery material on the bottom of the feet and resting them on fairly slick carpet as well. I use a Tube gun, and found that I have to load up the Sinclair Bi-Pod with forward shoulder pressure because the bi-pod itself will flex too much otherwise under recoil. Its just a matter of doing it consistently each shot. I am not getting flyers, other than when I just make a bad shot, and 99% of the time I can call those before they are scored.

 

[diego-ted]

99 so how hard can you push with your shoulder and not move the bipod? It has been my experience that I have to hold the rifle at the grip with my trigger hand to keep the bipod from moving forward.

Diego

 

[M99]

That's a very good question, and it is the reason I first tried putting rubber pads on the feet in order to be able to load the pod without moving it. But that worked backwards and although I could easily put pressure on the pod, when it recoiled, it caused the feet to jump around unevenly and shots went all over. So I went the other direction and shot my best scores and won a nice match. I do use the pistol grip to hold the rifle to my shoulder, and I am able to put just enough pressure on the pod to load it, without moving it around. Perhaps the answer is that I found the right amount of pressure for the best balance, at least for me and the rifle I am shooting.

 

[Dos XX]

Have you experimented with body position behind the bipod? When I was shooting a ski pod, I would get a lot of bipod hop when my body wasn't aligned correctly. When it was aligned correctly, it would ski straight back and I could get back on target by just pushing the gun forward in the bag.

 

[diego-ted]

Have you experimented with body position behind the bipod? When I was shooting a ski pod, I would get a lot of bipod hop when my body wasn't aligned correctly. When it was aligned correctly, it would ski straight back and I could get back on target by just pushing the gun forward in the bag.

Every time I get behind the rifle. Since I changed the feet on the bipod my hop and left movement has been reduced 90%. Now if I can just get control during the recoil?

Diego

 

[rjnallie]

What are you doing with your trigger hand thumb?

 

[Dos XX]

How is your trigger follow through?

 

[mattt]

Ted dump the sinclaire and get a Dixie Rorer spec. Your first time out you will see .There is to much play in the gen 2 or 3 that you have, hope this helps.

 

[diego-ted]

rjnallie, my thumb brushes the top, rear center of the grip and my trigger finger is touching the trigger lightly until I pull it straight back with the meat of the finger behind the nail. Like I said I have tried to have as little interaction with the rifle as possible, trying to get it to recoil straight back into my shoulder which is lightly up against the butt of the stock.

XX, I have experimented A LOT with body position and grip, my follow through could be better, I tend to look for holes in the target as opposed to where the reticle is at as the shot breaks. I mean, I feel I am always steady on the POA when I pull the trigger but my follow through can use some work.

Thanks everyone for the input. If anyone else has any advice, please share.

I will be taking a long hard look at what I do and how I do it when on the scope! Maybe I will try out a couple of different bipods. Who knew you could not put the reticle on the target, pull the trigger and the bullet hit the X!!! LOL ;D ;D ;D :'( :'( :'(

Diego

 

[rjnallie]

The reason I asked about your thumb is that I had a similar problem (bouncing left on recoil). Richard King watched and told me to take my thumb off the stock and the problem went away using a sled type bi-pod.
Raymond

 

[Scott Harris]

I had a gen3 Sinclair with elevation adjustment: dumped this bipod because the adjustment mechanism allowed the bipod to wobble and I don't like the independent adjusting legs. After trying several different bipods: settled on the Duplin. We have 3 of them and they have been rock solid reliable and very easy to use. Like others have said, I use the standard bipod feet that allow it to slide around. I personally do not prefer the feet you have....makes it a pain to make small lateral adjustments.

I use a short-nap carpet that allows the bipod to slide easily wherever it wants to go. I specifically avoid the kind of carpeting you are using because it digs a path for the feet which prevent moving it laterally for adjustment. The carpet is placed on my shooting mat. I feel this setup helps to provide a more consistent surface. My main concern is ensuring the bipod is on level, even ground and that it can slide freely under recoil.

The rifle slides about 1 target left at 1K and I consider this normal....right twist barrel causes some left recoil....no big deal and I can quickly reset because the bipod slides easily.

Position-wise, I am straight behind the rifle and make sure both shoulders are square to the target. I pull the rifle snugly into the shoulder, but I do NOT keep it pulled in with any arm pressure while shooting. Simply pull it in to have good shoulder contact and leave it at that. If a gap forms between my shoulder and the rifle, a low shot often occurs.

I try to relax my neck and let my head rest on the cheekpiece. My elevation is good when my head is resting on the cheekpiece in a relaxed way and it becomes one with the stock during the recoil pulse. If I tighten up any neck muscles before or during recoil.....high shot!

Once this is done, most of my focus is on trigger pull and ensuring the cross-hair stays on target during the firing sequence. Try to make sure my body is relaxed before and during ignition.

Another thing to consider is NPA. Make sure you are not applying any pressure to compensate for poor NPA....this will definitely cause fliers.

Hope that helps.