Small rifle primers
- Thread starter spudgun
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That I cannot say......
I saw 100.00/1k. Not very reasonable.
The sad thing is it is not apparent what the current or near future "reasonable" primer prices may be. I doubt they will ever be as inexpensive as they have been in the past. Supply is inching upwards but pricing is still quite high.
You are right.
At least I am seeing them more but the prices are up compaired to $30.00 per 1K.
Hopefully the supplys goes up more and the prices come down some.
If we get more foreign primers into the market, we have a shot. Our domestic suppliers are making too much green selling factory bullets and really have supplied the reloading community poorly in the last two years. I have some Turkish SPP on order. Hopefully they will be OK.
americanreloading.com has had plenty the last few weeks, all imports. Only Argie SPP right now. I have purchased from them over 4-5 years and have found them reliable and legit. You may not like the prices (theirs inc. shipping + hazmat) but at least we have availability.
In a more anecdotal observation, Brunos has had several primer types on the shelf. They are not disappearing in a day like they did a year ago.
In a more anecdotal observation, Brunos has had several primer types on the shelf. They are not disappearing in a day like they did a year ago.
That's my source for the Turkish stuff. The primer supply has been good in the last few weeks there although the prices are still high.
BR 4 small rifles primers are running about $227.00 per pound, or $14.19 per ounce.
By the ounce, approximately:
BR4 primers = $14.19
Varget = $3.13
Typical match barrel = $2.34
Berger 200-20x bullets = $1.35
700 Stainless sendero rifle = $6.88
BAT EX 50 BMG action = $14.73
Premium custom stock $12.50
By the ounce, approximately:
BR4 primers = $14.19
Varget = $3.13
Typical match barrel = $2.34
Berger 200-20x bullets = $1.35
700 Stainless sendero rifle = $6.88
BAT EX 50 BMG action = $14.73
Premium custom stock $12.50
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I have never bought primers buy the ounce.
Been buying them for 35 years.
2-3-4 years ago. Buying them for
$30.00/1k.
To go to $100.00-$200.00 a thousand sounds is a bit insane.
If they went up 10 bucks a thousand=30%
Maybe reasonable.
Been buying them for 35 years.
2-3-4 years ago. Buying them for
$30.00/1k.
To go to $100.00-$200.00 a thousand sounds is a bit insane.
If they went up 10 bucks a thousand=30%
Maybe reasonable.
I respect that this is a "shooting sports" web site and posts should be restricted to those topics, but I can't refrain from commenting on what I'm seeing in my area, eastern PA after my last few trips to the grocery stores, gas stations, and the general decline of traditional American values.
Yes, it is terribly frustrating for us reloaders and shooters that components are in short supply for so long with no evidence of ending any time soon. I've had over 50 years of enjoyment in the sport and was fortunate to have lived in the golden age of shooting, 60 - 80's when the only restriction on shooting supplies was one's ability to fund the hobby.
These were very good times for our sport, and I enjoyed the fellowship of shooting on pistol teams, hunting with my father, uncles, friends. The fire side chats at the hunting camp were experiences that were like gold to me. My fondness memories where hunting ground hogs in western PA with my open site, S&W Model 27, 357 magnum, roaming the rolling hay fields of Greene County PA, some of the most beautiful country on the planet. I was quite good in those days, both in hunting skills and field marksmanship with a revolver.
It saddens me that young shooters may be deterred from the sport because of cost of the sport, the in ability to obtain supplies, and peer pressure from anti-gun / anti-hunting sentiment that prevails these days. In my area in my prime time, we were a civilian group of law abiding riflemen / hunters maintaining the traditions of early America. Many were also military veterans.
I drifted from the subject, a flaw I'm confess of old farts,
but besides shooting supplies, I also see essential commodities being affected both in shortages, and inflationary pressures which is particularly punishing on the middle class and seniors on fixed incomes. So, this may be a bigger issue than just reloading supplies. I hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look promising from where I sit for the future.
Yes, it is terribly frustrating for us reloaders and shooters that components are in short supply for so long with no evidence of ending any time soon. I've had over 50 years of enjoyment in the sport and was fortunate to have lived in the golden age of shooting, 60 - 80's when the only restriction on shooting supplies was one's ability to fund the hobby.
These were very good times for our sport, and I enjoyed the fellowship of shooting on pistol teams, hunting with my father, uncles, friends. The fire side chats at the hunting camp were experiences that were like gold to me. My fondness memories where hunting ground hogs in western PA with my open site, S&W Model 27, 357 magnum, roaming the rolling hay fields of Greene County PA, some of the most beautiful country on the planet. I was quite good in those days, both in hunting skills and field marksmanship with a revolver.
It saddens me that young shooters may be deterred from the sport because of cost of the sport, the in ability to obtain supplies, and peer pressure from anti-gun / anti-hunting sentiment that prevails these days. In my area in my prime time, we were a civilian group of law abiding riflemen / hunters maintaining the traditions of early America. Many were also military veterans.
I drifted from the subject, a flaw I'm confess of old farts,
but besides shooting supplies, I also see essential commodities being affected both in shortages, and inflationary pressures which is particularly punishing on the middle class and seniors on fixed incomes. So, this may be a bigger issue than just reloading supplies. I hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look promising from where I sit for the future.
There are ALOT of mirror scam sites out there, ie a brick and mortar shooting sports store having an online website created in their name but not associated by them. Not much they can do about it. The big diff is the scam sites will not accept normal credit cards. And also their prices are below mkt and they always have hard to find items ie H4350. Funkin crooks everywhere anymore!
Small primers aren't my problem but I realized I only have about 900 various large rifle primers left in my stock after I let a desperate buddy have 500 of my Fed 210M primers*. Now I don't have a quantity of any given primer, just a mixed lot of Fed 210M, Rem 9½ & 9½M and some RWS. Enough to hold me but I will be keeping any eye open for availability on 210Ms. Fortunately, what I mostly load these days is Lapua Palma brass and I'm good on small primers.
*The price tag on the brick was $16.50
*The price tag on the brick was $16.50
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If any of you guys live in western Pa thers a place in Ebensburg called CAC supply they are a middle man company but sell to the public i just purchased 2 bricks of CCi 250's for 66$ each and a 8lb jug of RL26 for 275 but they are suffering just the same as everybody else. They put ther prices up to but i dont think its as bad as other places are
Coyotefurharvester
Silver $$ Contributor
Farm store had a pile of CCI 450 out on the counter yesterday, 7.99/100 no limit. Saw a couple guys get 2 or 3 packs.
It's not just shooting supplies. In a prior life I spoke on financial topics, We Live in a World where for 30 years we have had little to no inflation. Not true now. I wrote this in an article in December last year:I respect that this is a "shooting sports" web site and posts should be restricted to those topics, but I can't refrain from commenting on what I'm seeing in my area, eastern PA after my last few trips to the grocery stores, gas stations, and the general decline of traditional American values.
Yes, it is terribly frustrating for us reloaders and shooters that components are in short supply for so long with no evidence of ending any time soon. I've had over 50 years of enjoyment in the sport and was fortunate to have lived in the golden age of shooting, 60 - 80's when the only restriction on shooting supplies was one's ability to fund the hobby.
These were very good times for our sport, and I enjoyed the fellowship of shooting on pistol teams, hunting with my father, uncles, friends. The fire side chats at the hunting camp were experiences that were like gold to me. My fondness memories where hunting ground hogs in western PA with my open site, S&W Model 27, 357 magnum, roaming the rolling hay fields of Greene County PA, some of the most beautiful country on the planet. I was quite good in those days, both in hunting skills and field marksmanship with a revolver.
It saddens me that young shooters may be deterred from the sport because of cost of the sport, the in ability to obtain supplies, and peer pressure from anti-gun / anti-hunting sentiment that prevails these days. In my area in my prime time, we were a civilian group of law abiding riflemen / hunters maintaining the traditions of early America. Many were also military veterans.
I drifted from the subject, a flaw I'm confess of old farts,
" According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics the annual consumer price index (CPI) went up 6.8% in the year through November. What you may not know is that the government meddles with the calculation of the CPI. The site shadowstats.com lets us see how that affected reported inflation at the consumer level. Were we to calculate the CPI the way it was calculated in 1980, the annual rate, according to Shadowstats, would be right around 15%. Calculated the way it was done in 1990, the rate would be North of 10%. I suspect those of us who shop and buy stuff will lean more to Shadowstats than the government numbers.
The official Producer Price Index (PPI) numbers are higher than the CPI. Again, the official U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics number for the last twelve months is 9.6%. But if you look at some of the downstream stage numbers, some of them are jaw-dropping. Unprocessed goods went up 4.8% in November alone. Two, three four percent monthly numbers are right there. Grains, up 6.9% in a month. Steel scrap, up 11.4% The yearly total on that steel scrap is 65.6% if you dig into the government’s own spreadsheets."
That scrap steel #, now 3-4 months old, was, in my opinion, a real augur for what's to come. And Mad Vlad wasn't on anyone's radar back then.
Yea, I'm aware that they changed the baseline for the CPI in attempt to hide the truth. But the average American is fooled because we are the ones that have to make ends meet.
topclass2017
Gold $$ Contributor
TargetSportsUSA.com had primers yesterday. $599/5,000 case
2 month ago i got some cci 400 from sportsman's warehouse. Was $48.99 for a brick. This is higher than a few years ago but i would rather pay that than $100 a brick like i have seen from another local shop in Phoenix. I know things are up but as said before people need to just stop paying it and prices will drop when shelves are full.
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