Slo-Mo Videos .308 TTSX impact tests

[DanTana]

I have tested a lot of Barnes TTSX in .35 whelen and small amount in .308 with TTSX 168 grain. Just acquired some 130 grain TTSX for long distance comparisons with other brands.

I was surprised with penetration of 130 TTSX due to 3200fps verses 2730fps with the 168 grain. There was quite a difference in impact explosion between the two. The 130 penetrated into 7th. jug. The 168 penetrated into 4th. jug.

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Videos:
Notice movement and impact of jugs
Click for 130 TTSX video
http://www.grizzlywinmag.com/Bullet_testing/Slo-Mo-video/VID_130TTSX.mp4
Click for 168 TTSX video
http://www.grizzlywinmag.com/Bullet_testing/Slo-Mo-video/VID_168TTSX.mp4
Click for 45 ACP HP video
http://www.grizzlywinmag.com/Bullet_testing/Slo-Mo-video/VID_45HP.mp4

 

[dkhunt14]

I thought initial impact was close but it seemed like the smaller bullet went farther and impacted harder, farther in. Nice video and test. Matt

 

[dmoran]

Thanks for sharing.... great recovery pictures and video's !.!.!

I'd be curious to see the penetration difference at near equal velocities (at the target), since velocity has so much effect on bullet expansion.

Donovan

 

[watercam]

All I can say is that the 168 TSX (non-tipped) in an '06 ran the length of a cow elk (in at the right shoulder - just under the hide in the left buttock) at 275 yds.. My brother took a bull at 380 yds. through and through both shoulders with another '06. Macerated both lungs and heart. We have been using them for years with great success. I have a 300 Weatherby as well and will be using the 165 gr. TTSX (12" twist will not stabilize the 168s). Seems the 130s would shed an awful lot of velocity at extended range, wouldn't you say?

 

[DanTana]

All I can say is that the 168 TSX (non-tipped) in an '06 ran the length of a cow elk (in at the right shoulder - just under the hide in the left buttock) at 275 yds.. My brother took a bull at 380 yds. through and through both shoulders with another '06. Macerated both lungs and heart. We have been using them for years with great success. I have a 300 Weatherby as well and will be using the 165 gr. TTSX (12" twist will not stabilize the 168s). Seems the 130s would shed an awful lot of velocity at extended range, wouldn't you say?

One thing for sure the 130 shoots extremely flat. All slugs we have tested penetrate much more at slower velocities replicating 300-400 yard shots.

 

[DanTana]

Notice numbers: The 130 grainer starting out at much faster speed gives it speed advantage all the way out to 500 yards. Energy advantage to nearly 200 yards but this is where weight of 168 holds up better in longer ranges. I am not convinced the 168 is truly the better long range slug. The difference is not that great.


TTSX 130 grain

0 3200 2956 -1.50 0.00 0 0.000 0
50 3060 2702 -0.27 -0.44 0.00 0.050 2
100 2920 2461 0.03 -1.80 0.00 0.100 -0
150 2784 2237 -0.70 -4.19 0.00 0.153 2
200 2652 2031 -2.55 -7.70 0.00 0.208 5
250 2525 1840 -5.64 -12.45 0.00 0.266 9
300 2400 1663 -10.10 -18.57 0.00 0.327 13
350 2279 1500 -16.07 -26.19 0.00 0.391 17
400 2158 1344 -24.01 -35.84 0.00 0.462 23
450 2044 1206 -33.59 -47.07 0.00 0.533 29
500 1934 1080 -45.26 -60.38 0.00 0.609 35

TTSX 168 grain

0 2730 2780 -1.50 0.00 0 0.000 0
50 2636 2592 -0.19 -0.60 0.00 0.058 1
100 2541 2408 -0.13 -2.44 0.00 0.116 1
150 2448 2235 -1.42 -5.64 0.00 0.176 4
200 2356 2071 -4.17 -10.29 0.00 0.239 8
250 2267 1917 -8.49 -16.51 0.00 0.304 13
300 2179 1772 -14.50 -24.42 0.00 0.371 18
350 2094 1635 -22.35 -34.16 0.00 0.442 24
400 2010 1507 -32.18 -45.89 0.00 0.515 31
450 1929 1387 -44.17 -59.77 0.00 0.591 37
500 1846 1272 -59.03 -76.58 0.00

 

[dkhunt14]

I don't call it long-range till it gets out past 1000. A lot of shooting we do is farther. They don't have the sectional density for that. I believe it would make a great hunting bullet for 400 yards or so. It was a great video and nice to see you do the work involved. Matt

 

[Changeling]

I believe it would be very interesting to see Nosler partition's at the same weight/velocity in the test.

 

[DanTana]

I believe it would be very interesting to see Nosler partition's at the same weight/velocity in the test.

The only Partitions I have are for 243.

 

[Rustystud]

I tried the 130 TTXXX in a 1:12 308 and could not get them to shoot well. I loaded the 150 TTXXX with much better results. In my 20" model 7 they shoot sub .5 moa. At 100 yds. Have shot deer with them from 30 yds to 410. The only non pass through was from front to back at 80 yds. Bullet mushroomed just like it was supposed to. Retained 95%_ of its weight. Was recovered under the skin on the far ham.Deer dropped in its tracks.I like a large wound channel an exit wound.

 

[DanTana]

I tried the 130 TTXXX in a 1:12 308 and could not get them to shoot well. I loaded the 150 TTXXX with much better results. In my 20" model 7 they shoot sub .5 moa. At 100 yds. Have shot deer with them from 30 yds to 410. The only non pass through was from front to back at 80 yds. Bullet mushroomed just like it was supposed to. Retained 95%_ of its weight. Was recovered under the skin on the far ham.Deer dropped in its tracks.I like a large wound channel an exit wound.

I have shot 8 different powders before I found the best powder for my gun and 168 grain slugs.

 

[dennisinaz]

The Barnes X family off bullets kill water jugs better than any other bullet I have ever tested. Not necessarily on on game.

 

[Rustystud]

I have switched to Barnes Tipped Triple Shocks in all my big game rifles.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Ill never shoot another animal with one. Ive used em from newfoundland to namibia for 5 yrs killing everything from coyotes to moose. Worst performing bullet ever made. I was in denial for a very long time because of pictures and videos like these

 

[savagedasher]

My 9 year old Grand Daughter killed a water buff with one shot using 308 168 GR tsx
Her picture and write up is on barns youth archives .
Larry

 

[DanTana]

Ill never shoot another animal with one. Ive used em from newfoundland to namibia for 5 yrs killing everything from coyotes to moose. Worst performing bullet ever made. I was in denial for a very long time because of pictures and videos like these

I am surprised it took you five years. Examples of where they failed you???

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Big long thread in the hunting forum. No shock was the main thing. They killed everything i shot i just had to go find alot of em with no blood trails and a deer not bleeding in an arkansas thicket or a bear in an alder patch on your knees crawling that may or may not be dead finally got me.

 

[DanTana]

Ill never shoot another animal with one. Ive used em from newfoundland to namibia for 5 yrs killing everything from coyotes to moose. Worst performing bullet ever made. I was in denial for a very long time because of pictures and videos like these

Here is large Western NC buck I shot that entire body and lowered head was facing me. I shot him with 243 with 80 grain TSX. Slug struck him high in neck between shoulder blades and passed over four feet of entire body. When I got to him absolutely no blood on ground. Bullet was seen thru skin at his boy parts in skin. His heart pumped one time after striking him. I could not expect better results.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Big long thread in the hunting forum. No shock was the main thing. They killed everything i shot i just had to go find alot of em with no blood trails and a deer not bleeding in an arkansas thicket or a bear in an alder patch on your knees crawling that may or may not be dead finally got me.

 

[waterdog]

That is a good looking gun. Tell us about it.