Here are two typical targets. One with ten shots the other twenty. 500 prone. With this setup. Bighorn tl3 action, savage prefit shilen select match. 6.5 creed. The rifle shoots .4s on the bench as shown in the pic. I just cant seem to get any better then 1moa prone. I can't see my hits without a brake and don't want one anymore. To loud! Thanx mike