Shot show 2013 optics. Leupold Mark5 2-10x30, looking forward to it.

[nakneker]

I know low powered optics aren’t the rage but I still use quite a few of them. Leupold announced a new scope in the Mark5 series, a 2-10x30. I was gonna buy a March 1-10, thinking I’m gonna change directions. I’ve been using the Mark5 3-18x and have had good luck with their tracking and holding zero. This smaller size will be fun on a couple bolt action rifles I use for calling, dial and shoot when making the stands where ling shits are possible.

The other optic I want to try coming out of shot show is the Holosun thermals but they won’t hit till the end of the year. Seeing any at show you want to try?

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[Turbulent Turtle]

Over at the Hide, they invented a new term "To leupold something." This is when someone releases a new product with a major design flaw that screws us the desirability of the object. This was first applied on the Marck 5 2-20X30. The issues found were 35mm tube and 24 ounces.

You might want to look at the new March-FX 1.5-15X42 FFP or Dual Reticle. It's a 34mm tube and it's 24 ounces also. It has ED glass and a 42mm objective.

There is also a new March-FX 1-10X24 FFP or Dual Reticle that is 34mm throughout and 19 ounces.

 

[nakneker]

Over at the Hide, they invented a new term "To leupold something." This is when someone releases a new product with a major design flaw that screws us the desirability of the object. This was first applied on the Marck 5 2-20X30. The issues found were 35mm tube and 24 ounces.

You might want to look at the new March-FX 1.5-15X42 FFP or Dual Reticle. It's a 34mm tube and it's 24 ounces also. It has ED glass and a 42mm objective.

There is also a new March-FX 1-10X24 FFP or Dual Reticle that is 34mm throughout and 19 ounces.

I’ve owned March scopes, no complaints, they did everything they were suppose. Just been real happy with two Mark5s I’ve been using. May end getting one of each and keepIng the winner.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I have no issues with your decision one way or the other. I just thought I would share that little bit of witticism that showed up on the hide end of last week on the thread discussing the very same scopes.

Also, I was not sure you were aware of the new versions of the 1.5-15X42 and the 1-10X24.

The Hide also had some light criticism for Deon about the name they use for the new locking mechanism on the knobs: to wit, "Shuriken." In the end the name was deemed very fitting.

Good luck with your decision(s). You won't go wrong either way.

 

[nakneker]

I have no issues with your decision one way or the other. I just thought I would share that little bit of witticism that showed up on the hide end of last week on the thread discussing the very same scopes.

Also, I was not sure you were aware of the new versions of the 1.5-15X42 and the 1-10X24.

The Hide also had some light criticism for Deon about the name they use for the new locking mechanism on the knobs: to wit, "Shuriken." In the end the name was deemed very fitting.

Good luck with your decision(s). You won't go wrong either way.

I always enjoy your input, watched your posts for years. Thanks for sharing. I’ll give the Leupold a whirl, I can see myself trying the 1-15 March.Were spoiled with the amount of options we have for optics now days, especially dial turrets, it wasn’t that long ago that your choices were very limited.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

This is very true. We are truly living in a "golden age" of rifle optics.

BTW, is that a DHC-2 Beaver I see?

 

[DGP4]

It will be interesting to see how it compares to the VIPER® PST™ GEN II 2-10X32 FFP, which is almost 1/2 the price.

 

[nakneker]

This is very true. We are truly living in a "golden age" of rifle optics.

BTW, is that a DHC-2 Beaver I see?

It is, not mine. I use to live in Alaska out in the bush, managed a lumber yard there for a couple years. My neighbor was a commercial fisherman, he worked his butt off from April till the first of September but then he would play in between. He had seven planes including the first beaver I ever flew in. I ended up flying with him a lot, beavers and super cubs. Always the passenger, never flew one. I’ve flown in quite a few since then, that particular one was on a fishing trip with my boys on Kodiak island, we flew out everyday for a week hitting several remote places in that plane fishing silvers. The pilot was amazing and the picture reminds me of some good times.

Are you a pilot?

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I am not a pilot. I have had a deep interest in planes all my life. I like to think that I know a little bit about planes. You might have seen my pictures at the 2022 Nationals taken at the Pima museum during my road trip to Pheonix. I stop there every time I go to Phoenix. I've been to most Air museums around the country and plan.

I have known about the Beaver for over 60 years. I lived on a lake which had a floatplane base. These aircraft would take off in the early morning to take fishermen and hunters into the wilds of northern Quebec, then they would go pick them up in the late afternoon. I could identify Beavers, Otters, Cessnas and Norseman in my sleep.

The Beavers and Otters were my favorite. The Norseman, about the size and capacity of the Otter, was extremely loud.

DHC-2 Beaver
DHC-3 Otter
Noorduyn Norseman

 

[nakneker]

I am not a pilot. I have had a deep interest in planes all my life. I like to think that I know a little bit about planes. You might have seen my pictures at the 2022 Nationals taken at the Pima museum during my road trip to Pheonix. I stop there every time I go to Phoenix. I've been to most Air museums around the country and plan.

I have known about the Beaver for over 60 years. I lived on a lake which had a floatplane base. These aircraft would take off in the early morning to take fishermen and hunters into the wilds of northern Quebec, then they would go pick them up in the late afternoon. I could identify Beavers, Otters, Cessnas and Norseman in my sleep.

The Beavers and Otters were my favorite. The Norseman, about the size and capacity of the Otter, was extremely loud.

DHC-2 Beaver
DHC-3 Otter
Noorduyn Norseman

I share your interest, I don’t know the models that well but I certainly can ID a Beaver and an Otter from a long ways away, those engines kind of give it away too. I use to fly on an old otter from King Salmon to Katmai national park a few times every summer, short rides over Naknek Lake and the Bay of islands but always fascinating. I knew that pilot well and would get the copilot seat most every time.

The Pima air museum is a place anybody should take the time to visit when in the Tucson area. I’ve taken my kids, all seven of them, there at least once a year growing up. I was as fascinated as they were, its a great collection of aircraft. Unfortunately that’s the only air museum I’ve visited. When I retire I hope to see more and other museums like the John Browning museum in Utah, I hear good things about it too. Fun stuff!

 

[Knotwild]

They will probably price it out of my reach.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I share your interest, I don’t know the models that well but I certainly can ID a Beaver and an Otter from a long ways away, those engines kind of give it away too. I use to fly on an old otter from King Salmon to Katmai national park a few times every summer, short rides over Naknek Lake and the Bay of islands but always fascinating. I knew that pilot well and would get the copilot seat most every time.

The Pima air museum is a place anybody should take the time to visit when in the Tucson area. I’ve taken my kids, all seven of them, there at least once a year growing up. I was as fascinated as they were, its a great collection of aircraft. Unfortunately that’s the only air museum I’ve visited. When I retire I hope to see more and other museums like the John Browning museum in Utah, I hear good things about it too. Fun stuff!

Yep. those engines were easily identifiable. But they were nothing like the Norseman for sheer noise.

I've visited the Air Force museum in Dayton several times. They have a Valkyrie and a Peacemaker with a Goblin, among MANY other things.

I've visited the SAC museum in Omaha; they have an SR-71 hanging from the ceiling and the staircase goes around and above it. Superb.

Boeing museum in Seattle; they have an M-21 with a D-21 on top of it.

Air & Space Museum in San Diego; they have an A-12 as gate guardian.

Kelly AFB in San Antonio: SR-71 on static display.

US Air Force Academy in Colo Springs. They have a B-52 on static display.

Grisson Air Museum in Peru, IN; They had several planes on static, including a TB-58.

I remember the museum in Galveston with a TB-58 also.

If you want a current list of various planes at various museums and displays:

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[nakneker]

Yep. those engines were easily identifiable. But they were nothing like the Norseman for sheer noise.

I've visited the Air Force museum in Dayton several times. They have a Valkyrie and a Peacemaker with a Goblin, among MANY other things.

I've visited the SAC museum in Omaha; they have an SR-71 hanging from the ceiling and the staircase goes around and above it. Superb.

Boeing museum in Seattle; they have an M-21 with a D-21 on top of it.

Air & Space Museum in San Diego; they have an A-12 as gate guardian.

Kelly AFB in San Antonio: SR-71 on static display.

US Air Force Academy in Colo Springs. They have a B-52 on static display.

Grisson Air Museum in Peru, IN; They had several planes on static, including a TB-58.

I remember the museum in Galveston with a TB-58 also.

If you want a current list of various planes at various museums and displays:

John Weeks - Aviation History And Aircraft Photography

John Weeks personal site featuring aircraft photography, state line signs, manned spacecraft, Pioneer stereo, World Trade Center tribute, railroad locomotives, and Oliver farm tractors

www.johnweeks.com

This is great! Thank you! SR71 and the A10 are my two favorite military planes, there’s so many neat ones it can be mind boggling. I have one or two favorites out of every era, P51 and B2 out of WWII.

Not many WWII vets left, I’ve talked to many over the years. A couple who flew in both of the planes I just mentioned. What an amazing generation of planes and men who flew them!

 

[Fred Bohl]

Denys, you need to add the EAA Museum to your list of visited. Just 12 miles south of me and for further encouragement admission is only $10.50 for you old guys and Free for us members.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Denys, you need to add the EAA Museum to your list of visited. Just 12 miles south of me and for further encouragement admission is only $10.50 for you old guys and Free for us members.

That's in Oshkosh, right? I only get up in that part of the country when the Nationals are in Lodi. So next time they are held there, I shall endeavor to drop by. It's quite the detour, though but I'm sure it's worth it.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

This is great! Thank you! SR71 and the A10 are my two favorite military planes, there’s so many neat ones it can be mind boggling. I have one or two favorites out of every era, P51 and B2 out of WWII.

Not many WWII vets left, I’ve talked to many over the years. A couple who flew in both of the planes I just mentioned. What an amazing generation of planes and men who flew them!

Ok, this is not healthy. The SR-71, indeed all of the Oxcart derivatives, have been a deep interest of mine for decades. My 2 favorites in the group are the A-12 and the M-21. I'll let you in on a deep, dark secret, I am a life-long modeler. (Don't tell my wife. I'm sure she has not seen the hundreds of boxes of yet-to-be-built models.) Any way, I have 4 SR-71 in 1:48 scale and 2 in 1:72 scale, one of them with a D-21. I would like to build an M-21 w/ D-21 in 1:48 scale one of these years, which means I will have to scratchbuild lots of stuff.

I like the A-10. Like you I have favorites from different eras:

WWII: P47-M and -D versions. The bestest and fastest piston prop planes of WWII. The biggest, badest fighters. Technology wise: They are built around a unique Turbo Supercharger coupled with the virtually indestructible PW R-2800.

P-38-L Lightning.
Avro Lancaster.
P-61 Black Widow.
Spitfire
TA-152
Do-335 Pfeil (Arrow)
B-29
Gloster Meteor
Many others, this is not an exhaustive list.

Douglas A-1 Skyraider
NA F-86 Sabre
B-36
B-52
B-58
Avro CF-100 Canuck
Avro CF-105 Arrow
H-P Victor
Avro Vulcan

F-111F Aardvark and the EF-111 Sparkvark.
F-15E (Also looking at the EX version)

F-117

F-22 Raptor
F-35 Lighning II.

Again, far from an exhaustive list.

 

[nakneker]

Ok, this is not healthy. The SR-71, indeed all of the Oxcart derivatives, have been a deep interest of mine for decades. My 2 favorites in the group are the A-12 and the M-21. I'll let you in on a deep, dark secret, I am a life-long modeler. (Don't tell my wife. I'm sure she has not seen the hundreds of boxes of yet-to-be-built models.) Any way, I have 4 SR-71 in 1:48 scale and 2 in 1:72 scale, one of them with a D-21. I would like to build an M-21 w/ D-21 in 1:48 scale one of these years, which means I will have to scratchbuild lots of stuff.

I like the A-10. Like you I have favorites from different eras:

WWII: P47-M and -D versions. The bestest and fastest piston prop planes of WWII. The biggest, badest fighters. Technology wise: They are built around a unique Turbo Supercharger coupled with the virtually indestructible PW R-2800.

P-38-L Lightning.
Avro Lancaster.
P-61 Black Widow.
Spitfire
TA-152
Do-335 Pfeil (Arrow)
B-29
Gloster Meteor
Many others, this is not an exhaustive list.

Douglas A-1 Skyraider
NA F-86 Sabre
B-36
B-52
B-58
Avro CF-100 Canuck
Avro CF-105 Arrow
H-P Victor
Avro Vulcan

F-111F Aardvark and the EF-111 Sparkvark.
F-15E (Also looking at the EX version)

F-117

F-22 Raptor
F-35 Lighning II.

Again, far from an exhaustive list.

That’s quite a list!

I’ve never got into modeling other than when I was young. Put simple stuff together back then. I have a friend who builds model ships, the details and hours spent is hard to comprehend, pretty amazing. Probably good I never got into serious modeling, I’m the type that would have a train track running through my house along with a scaled train depot and several period correct model trains.

I work in Hawaii about half my time and I’m in and out of the Honolulu airport, I catch smaller planes to Molokai and Lanai on a regular basis and sometimes while waiting for the Cessna Caravan to take me there the fighters based there will be doing touch and goes, really loud and very fun to watch. I’m not sure but I believe they are F-22s.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Yeah, my list of favorites ebbs and flows but a few are always in it; the Oxcart series chief among them.

I've accumulated a few hundred model kits over the decades, with the goal of assembling them when I retire. We shall see, I am already several years past that time and still working, while the kits wait patiently.

Hickam AFB is the one you're talking about, and the 18th Fighter Squadron based there does indeed fly F-22 Raptors. Good eye.

 

[nakneker]

Yeah, my list of favorites ebbs and flows but a few are always in it; the Oxcart series chief among them.

I've accumulated a few hundred model kits over the decades, with the goal of assembling them when I retire. We shall see, I am already several years past that time and still working, while the kits wait patiently.

Hickam AFB is the one you're talking about, and the 18th Fighter Squadron based there does indeed fly F-22 Raptors. Good eye.

You can see those F22s on approach at Daniel K International. The last two years I have noticed they keep as many as dozen out on the tarmack under small sun shades ready to go. If your looking you’ll see them off on the right side of the plane. In the past you would only see a couple. They have also stepped up their touch and goes and their flying has been more aggresive, more straight up vertical and hard banks than in the past, usually flying in pairs. I’m sure once they are out away from air traffic the real fun begins.

Thanks for the chat, I learned a few things. Very enjoyable!