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Scope Magnification

One thing to keep in mind is to make sure you can go low enough in power for moving targets in hunting conditions. You sometimes need the extra field of view. I like the Nightforce 5.5x22 NXS. Matt
 
scattergun2570 said:
I want to get a CZ 527 in .223. For shots on Coyotes/Groundhogs out to 300yds..how much power would you suggest?

There is no need to see bullet holes on a rifle used to shoot animals at 300 or less... that are that as large, or larger than a house cat.

But there is need to be able to deal with mirage and a groundhog that is playing peek-a-boo.

Any good 6.5-20x will be more scope than you need.
 
I have many high power variable's on my rifle's and on hot hazy and humid day's I end up at much lower powers than I care to admit.
 
I would want less power. When huntining I always find myself with the scope all the way down. I have a cz 527 in 223, I have a 4.5-14x40 mounted in medium rings. I ground the bolt handle to clear it. I think it is the perfert combo. I had a 6.5-20 on it, but it was overkill, and I didn't like 6.5x being my lowest power, hard to find fast moving game with it.
 
Seriously you can get by easily with anything that is 2.5x10 or greater. 300 yd coyotes or hogs are no problem at 10x. That's exactly what I run on my coyote rifle in 223 with no complaints. And yes, I've had higher magnification scopes on it (up to 24x) and always go back to the 2.5x10 for a hunting rifle. A BDC reticle (or that type) will help you on the 223.
 
Target acquisition is hard when looking down a soda straw. Imagine you have dialed your scope up to its highest limits and your first shot does not drop the coyote in its tracks. The coyote will take off for the next county at a fast clip, your narrow field of view will make it very hard to get the scope back on the target.

Seeing bullet holes at 300 yards it what they make spotting or target scopes for, hunting scopes are used to effectively identify and target the animal of choice. You will only see the bullet hole on an animal if you are able to get it in the scope and shoot it.
 
zfastmalibu said:
I would want less power. When huntining I always find myself with the scope all the way down. I have a cz 527 in 223, I have a 4.5-14x40 mounted in medium rings. I ground the bolt handle to clear it. I think it is the perfert combo. I had a 6.5-20 on it, but it was overkill, and I didn't like 6.5x being my lowest power, hard to find fast moving game with it.
Leupolds have less field of view then a lot of other scopes. I had to go down to the 4.5x14 on my carry hunting gun. I just couldn't keep running deer in the scope. But some situations call for more power. Matt
 
It would seem to me that a 5x-20x or 6x-24x would be the best of both worlds. I wouldn't think that at the lowest setting, 5 or 6 magnification is too much for hunting......unless you're shooting big game inside of 50 yards with a 223. I've also found that whenI'm comparing scopes side by side, the 5x or 6x magnification in some scopes doesn't look any larger then the 4x setting in other scopes. So either way, you should be fine at the lower settings.
 
scattergun2570 said:
dmoran said:
Enough to see your bullet holes clearly and easily at 300-yards.
No less then x24 - IMO

Seriously?
I think a 5-20 on the high end would be perfectly fine. A 4.5-14 Zeiss is a dang good scope you can get used pretty fairly priced , I am just not a leupold fan. I had a Weaver classic V 6-24 that was a real nice scope for the money , I just needed more elevation then it had, not a problem in your situation though.
 
CatShooter said:
scattergun2570 said:
I want to get a CZ 527 in .223. For shots on Coyotes/Groundhogs out to 300yds..how much power would you suggest?

There is no need to see bullet holes on a rifle used to shoot animals at 300 or less... that are that as large, or larger than a house cat.

But there is need to be able to deal with mirage and a groundhog that is playing peek-a-boo.

Any good 6.5-20x will be more scope than you need.

Ditto ..........................
 
dkhunt14 said:
zfastmalibu said:
I would want less power. When huntining I always find myself with the scope all the way down. I have a cz 527 in 223, I have a 4.5-14x40 mounted in medium rings. I ground the bolt handle to clear it. I think it is the perfert combo. I had a 6.5-20 on it, but it was overkill, and I didn't like 6.5x being my lowest power, hard to find fast moving game with it.
Leupolds have less field of view then a lot of other scopes. I had to go down to the 4.5x14 on my carry hunting gun. I just couldn't keep running deer in the scope. But some situations call for more power. Matt

Field of view is a math thing, pure and simple. If you have two scopes from differant manufacturers with IDENTICAL specs(ie objective lens size, ocular lens size, tube diameter, and power), the field of view will be the same.
 
4xforfun said:
Field of view is a math thing, pure and simple. If you have two scopes from differant manufacturers with IDENTICAL specs (ie objective lens size, ocular lens size, tube diameter, and power), the field of view will be the same.


Even easier...

For scopes that have the same power and same ocular diameter, then field of view is purely a function of eye relief.
 
dkhunt14 said:
zfastmalibu said:
I would want less power. When huntining I always find myself with the scope all the way down. I have a cz 527 in 223, I have a 4.5-14x40 mounted in medium rings. I ground the bolt handle to clear it. I think it is the perfert combo. I had a 6.5-20 on it, but it was overkill, and I didn't like 6.5x being my lowest power, hard to find fast moving game with it.
Leupolds have less field of view then a lot of other scopes. I had to go down to the 4.5x14 on my carry hunting gun. I just couldn't keep running deer in the scope. But some situations call for more power. Matt

So you are comfortable at 300yds with 14x on groundhogs? Seems like that crosshair might be almost as wide as the target.
 
scattergun2570 said:
So you are comfortable at 300yds with 14x on groundhogs? Seems like that crosshair might be almost as wide as the target.

Yup - a groundhog at 300 yards through a 14x scope is the same size as a groundhog at 60 feet with iron sights - I could do that with a hand gun...

... and I'm not a good shot with a hand gun.
 
Lapua40X said:
CatShooter said:
scattergun2570 said:
I want to get a CZ 527 in .223. For shots on Coyotes/Groundhogs out to 300yds..how much power would you suggest?

There is no need to see bullet holes on a rifle used to shoot animals at 300 or less... that are that as large, or larger than a house cat.

But there is need to be able to deal with mirage and a groundhog that is playing peek-a-boo.

Any good 6.5-20x will be more scope than you need.

Ditto ..........................


Ditto above for me as well and my preferred use. But, you have to choose what works best for you. None of us are served best by a one-size fits all answer.
 
4xforfun said:
dkhunt14 said:
zfastmalibu said:
I would want less power. When huntining I always find myself with the scope all the way down. I have a cz 527 in 223, I have a 4.5-14x40 mounted in medium rings. I ground the bolt handle to clear it. I think it is the perfert combo. I had a 6.5-20 on it, but it was overkill, and I didn't like 6.5x being my lowest power, hard to find fast moving game with it.
Leupolds have less field of view then a lot of other scopes. I had to go down to the 4.5x14 on my carry hunting gun. I just couldn't keep running deer in the scope. But some situations call for more power. Matt

Field of view is a math thing, pure and simple. If you have two scopes from differant manufacturers with IDENTICAL specs(ie objective lens size, ocular lens size, tube diameter, and power), the field of view will be the same.
Field of view isn't as simple as a math formula. The 6.5x20x50 Leupold has 5.5 feet at 20 and 14.3 feet at 6.5 Where the Burris has 7.5 at 20 and 22 feet at 6.5 power. That is a big difference. Matt
 

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