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Scary story.... it could be the good old USA if we don't vote

Look what has happen to England since the introduction of the "1920 Firearms Act" in Joly Old England.

1937 Firearms Act
1968 Firearms Act
1997 Firearms Act
Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006

Almost all of this happened in my grandfather's lifetime... Who left a few body parts in Europe during the 1st WW.

Tim
 
The facts on this story aren't entirely clear. Unfortunately the Brit press reports seem confused. Sgt. Major Cook is being tried in a military court. It's not clear whether the alleged crime is possession of the ammo per se, or whether he is charged with taking ammo that rightfully belonged to the Army. Still there's much of the account with is disturbing.

I also wonder if the "up to 40,000 rounds of .22 ammunition" was in fact just rimfire stuff since the article refers to "5.56 ammo" as something different.

If this is mostly .22LR ammo, I know rimfire shooters who have gone through 2,000 rounds a month, so these quantities are not unusual. If Cook shot four 50rd boxes a day, this "cache" represents a 200-day training supply.

Heck I knew cowboy action shooters (at the championship level) who shot 700-1000 rounds a week combined centerfire pistol/rifle/shotgun.

Keep in mind that this is an active duty soldier who has been rated #1 in the world, and the British Forces shooting Champ. Cook is also is a double winner of HM The Queen's Medal for Shooting Excellence and holds the record for the largest winning margin ever achieved by the Marksmen Champions of the British Army since competition began in 1869.

Here's one comment that puts things in perspective:

The dedication of competition shooters is immense, and the practice time required to be competitive is enormous. Competition shooters count rounds in CASES, not rounds, so 40,000 rounds (80 cases) is not that much for a competition shooter. My son shoots both air pistol and .22 competitively (he's ranked in the top 20 nationally for both) and tried out for the US Olympic team (missed, sadly). I estimate that 40,000 rounds is about 6 months' supply, at his practice rate (5 practice sessions a week, 300+ rounds per session, do the maths). Shotgunner/gold medallist Kim Rhode goes through 20,000 rounds a MONTH in practice. Britain needs to get back some of that much-vaunted common sense, and realize that sometimes, guns aren't the evil things the politicians and the Terminally Fearful would have you believe.

That same writer (from Texas) declared:

Sar' Major Cook: your own country may think you're a criminal, but we don't. Please emigrate to the United States; we LOVE our competition shooters, and nobody cares how much ammo you keep at home. (I have over 25,000 rounds of .22 just for recreation shooting, and that's not considered much around here.) Our Army Marksmanship Unit is one of the best in the world, and I'm pretty sure they'd welcome you with open arms. There's even a temporary visa available for you: it's the same one used by UK pro golfers to play over here on the PGA circuit. So come on over; we'll look after you.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225166/British-pistol-shooting-champion-Morgan-Cook-facing-jail--having-large-cache-bullets.html#ixzz2B1ljXREm
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--------- Also, for what it's worth, the British media doesn't seem to know the difference between "bullets" and ammunition. The stories from the UK use the terms interchangeably, saying that Cook is being prosecuted for a "large cache of bullets".
 
Imagine how the media would portray a visit to our collection of firearms, ammunition, reloading suplies, etc. They have an innate hostility to firearms ownership and do thier best to convince society to elect leaders that agree with them, we face the same ignorance here as our friends in the UK and around the world.
Gary Eliseo
 
That linked article is pretty clear when it points out the guy was living on a military reservation. What are the rules here for our armed forces members? Pretty tough I think. It's a different game where civilians are residing.

Still, the message is clear: we need to VOTE to ensure we KEEP the rights we still enjoy, not sit home thinking our votes don't count!
 
We must send a clear message to the anti gunners and elect whom we feel that wont join the ranks of gunhaters.
 
spclark said:
That linked article is pretty clear when it points out the guy was living on a military reservation. What are the rules here for our armed forces members? Pretty tough I think. It's a different game where civilians are residing.

Hi, I was in the air force for six years, I just got out march 31st so I can provide some clarification. At one point I lived on base and has friends on base. We were able to keep our firearms at our place and there were no restrictions on the amount of ammunition we could have. As far as the other branches of our military go I can not say with a 100% certainty there rules are the same.
 
I was torn about replying, in the military, we don't express our political views in general, even though we are about 85% conservative (social and/or fiscal).

It is a sad irritating story, he is a senior non-commissioned officer (NCO).

I'm surprised that the Air Force allows firearms in housing on base...in the Army, on Post, the privately owned firearms (POF), have to be kept in an Arms Room. Ammo can be stored in housing, however rules for storage are supposed to be followed.

I have served on Joint Base with the same rules--POFs stored in an Arms Room on Post....

I have and will defend anyone's right to their political view.

It's sad that the Nazi party is legal in the US and illegal in Germany, and that we have Communist and Socialist parties, but we accept the far Left as well as the far Right.

With 28 years in the military, I have lived in many countries with socialized medicine, gun control, high taxes, and early on I never dreamed that it could possibly come to the US.

In the military we give up many of our civil rights/personal freedoms, and we live with government health care, etc...If we as a country continue with some of the current Democratic platform principles we as a country will regret the choice.

I have fought for this great country in many conflicts, and despite the personal costs, I would do it again. I believe in the principles this country was founded on...but most of our forefathers did cling to God, and their right to bear arms.

If you disagree I respect your right to do so.
 
FUBAR,
2 of the 3 bases I was stationed at allowed you to keep your personal firearms in base housing, the 3rd base being in korea, obviously no POF there lol. If you lived in the dormitory's you had to keep your firearms at the armory.


Also I wanted to say, very well put in your last post.
 
We must convince the people who sit on their sofas and dont believe that a vote doesnt count.Just look at al gore's recounts trying to unseat the president elect bush at that time it came down to just a few hundred vots in florida. Soooooooo your vote does count and is our right to excersise it every election and should hold it dear to our hearts.
 
Somebody sent this to me on Facebook and I had to share.

"Reset your clock this morning and your President on Tuesday!"
 

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