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Does anyone have the story on Saubier? It always seemed to have the traffic to sustain itself. I think the problem is that the demographic is getting too old. Older folks have the money to spend in the ever increasing costs and hassles associated with the shooting sports. I saw the same thing happen in R/C aircraft. The younger people were forced out by the cost. The participants just kept getting older and older.
 
Does anyone have the story on Saubier? It always seemed to have the traffic to sustain itself. I think the problem is that the demographic is getting too old. Older folks have the money to spend in the ever increasing costs and hassles associated with the shooting sports. I saw the same thing happen in R/C aircraft. The younger people were forced out by the cost. The participants just kept getting older and older.
I was a moderator there for a while. Can’t say exactly what happened but here’s what it looked like to me: the originator of the site lost interest. His brother handled the nuts and bolts but didn’t have a passion for the subject matter. The site became essentially self-moderating. Eventually it was more hassle than it was worth and the site was shut down.
 
Thanks for the link 426nut, twas a great site back in the day. I have made life long friends there and enjoyed that site in its heyday. I really enjoyed going to the Saubier shoots too,glad I made the effort and pushed for the time off of work so I could go. Very thankful for the Small Stuff section here and the fellas that still show up from those days gone by.I've almost felt a little bit untrue to my nature as I've been shooting my .220 Swift lately and realizing it's time to dust off my trusty old 17Mach1v and the 17HeBee again.
Matt
 
Thanks for sharing this link.

It truly was a great site filled with valuable information. I remember finding the site right about the time my small caliber addiction began and this only fueled the interest (and cost me a lot of money !!). I spent many evenings reading the posts and experiences from the other shooters on there. Truly miss those days and wish we had access to all the content from the past.
 
Thanks for the link 426nut, twas a great site back in the day. I have made life long friends there and enjoyed that site in its heyday. I really enjoyed going to the Saubier shoots too,glad I made the effort and pushed for the time off of work so I could go. Very thankful for the Small Stuff section here and the fellas that still show up from those days gone by.I've almost felt a little bit untrue to my nature as I've been shooting my .220 Swift lately and realizing it's time to dust off my trusty old 17Mach1v and the 17HeBee again.
Matt
Like Matt, I've made some long time friends through Saubier. Jim was a very busy guy. When he got promoted to head of Sitka Waterfowl out in Bozeman, he was traveling a lot. His brother like to hunt with hawks and I think made a trip out West every year. We had 2 Saubier prairie dog hunt. Gary W organized the first in Grand Island and Dave Moore organized the 2nd at Whitetail Lodge in Wyo. Here in Md 4 of us ( Charlie S, Doc Ed , John M and myself) put on a Small Caliber Shoot. We shot 100, 200 and 300 yd targets. At the end of the day everyone attending got a free pulled pork dinner. It was our way to pay back Jim a little for the great site he provided. He never wanted money. I was happy for the Saubier brothers that they got to take their Dad, Leo, out west for dogs before he passed from ALS. The site had a great run, I'll always be thankful to Jim for providing it.
 
Older folks have the money to spend in the ever increasing costs and hassles associated with the shooting sports.
Personally I dont think this had anything to do with it, IMHO it was like Tommie said just look at how much time the boss here says he has to spend.
 
Thanks for the link 426nut, twas a great site back in the day. I have made life long friends there and enjoyed that site in its heyday. I really enjoyed going to the Saubier shoots too,glad I made the effort and pushed for the time off of work so I could go. Very thankful for the Small Stuff section here and the fellas that still show up from those days gone by.I've almost felt a little bit untrue to my nature as I've been shooting my .220 Swift lately and realizing it's time to dust off my trusty old 17Mach1v and the 17HeBee again.
Matt
MontDoug, Kenny, so many great guys with small cal information...and stories.
A Remington 788 in 7-08 I bought from Doug almost 25 yrs ago, is still my #1 deer rifle choice.
 
I'm sad that there's not a way to download all of the old threads from the site. There was so much information available from the people that designed the rounds and built the firearms to shoot them.
 
I am so happy I've recently joined a really nice gun range down here in the south. It's been my pleasure to get the bigger old boomers ready for ground hog shooting. I had been going to a free public range,while nice it was limited to 100 yards. The main reason I joined was to be able to shake down my comp guns at 300 yards, but another plus is getting to rekindle my love affair with the smaller caliber guns too. I really loved seeing and reading about Dan C's latest creation on Saubier's whether it was the Killer Bee series or the 17 Predator or the 20 Duster. Dan certainly had a fertile mind and he sure applied it well to the small calibers. Lots of other great folks and ideas on that site too Ray H even brought us samples of the 17 Little Nasty to one of those Saubier shoots. It certainly was a great time for small calibers,re Saubiers, Small Caliber News,17HMR,20VarTarg ,204 Ruger and so on.It pains me that so much of that wonderful time is now behind us, however it's not too late to dust of an old favorite and take it shooting. We've got a lot of work to do, but with a little motivation we can make small calibers great again. Come to think of it I've got a 20BRA barrel and some Unmussig vld's that need to be tested.
Matt
 

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