Rimfire recoil lugs

[cdngary]

Some of the rimfires have what I would call a floating lug. Should these be in contact with the action and stock all the time or do they just float and touch whenever needed? If bedding an action should they be fastened to the action?

 

[fkimble@charter.net]

Never seen a "floating" lug. Some 22's just have the action to stock screw or screws. To do anything a lug would need to be firmly attached to one part and be firmly against a portion of the other.

Frank

 

[Schutzen2]

My CZ 457 had a "floating" lug. It just dropped into the stock at the back of the action inlet. There's a slot cut in the bottom of the action tang that the lug would contact when the action was placed in the stock. I'm not sure how effective it is. If I would have kept it in that stock I probably would have done something to try to improve it.

 

[jpx2rk]

The Ruger American rifle has a similar set up but called a Y block IIRC.

 

[dgeesaman]

The Ruger American rifle has a similar set up but called a Y block IIRC.

As in “Y even bother”?

Just kidding

 

[natdscott]

As in “Y even bother”?

Just kidding

I mean. They aren't the worst rifle on the market. It's a v-block of sorts, molded into the stocks.

I don't own one, but it's not that bad, for what they are:

 

[akajun]

Related question
I have an older anschutz 1413 position rifle that was bedded by an Amu armorer way back when with bisonite to show you how long ago
The slot for the lug in the receiver is empty and the lug appears to be cast bisonite.
Is that still common to do today and when doing it do you leave any clearance in the front and top like you would on a center fire bottom and front?
I’m about to have it rebarreled and possibly bedded

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

Little Crow Gunworks ( IIRC ) makes a Recoil Lug for, the 10 / 22 Ruger and seems to work really "well", as I'm easily getting, under 1/2", 50 yard groups from my Green Mtn Barrel, using Mid Priced, Wolf and SK ammo.
Be careful with, the Glass Bedding as IT ( the Lug ) "needs" a Bit of, angled "relief" in Front of it to, get the Action out of, the Stock for cleaning. The Action has, NO "movement" now and, Repeatable,.. POI.
I Thought it was, Money well spent, as I have, a VERY Accurate 10/22

 

[cdngary]

This is what I'm trying to find out if anyone has taken one of these 'floating' lugs and fastened it to the action, bedded it and got any better results?

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

@ cdngary,..
As a former Gunsmith that, has Glass Bedded, a couple of Hundred Rifle's over, the Years,..
making, the Action and Lug, SOLID, in the Stock and Free floating the Barrel, HAS always,.. worked.
But I'm NOT, a .22 cal., Target Rifle,.. "Expert" all I know, IS that,..
My Free floated, Green Mtn Barreled, Lil' Crow Lug, Glass Bedded in my, cheapy $800 Ruger, 10-22 "Shoots", very,.. WELL.
Tho practically, no Recoil, the .22 LR Cartridge, does produce, SOME, "Vibration" does IT need, "Taming" ? IDK.
Having, a GREAT Trigger, IS also,.. Important !
THEN,. you gotta find, the "Right", Ammo !

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

There ARE, a Few Expert, .22 Rimfire, "serious", TARGET Shooters with, $5 to $10,000 Rifles that, Post "Here" and hopefully, one of them will "Chime In" on THIS subject as I'm curious to find, the Answer to, your Question,.. Myself

 

[CharlieNC]

"Floating recoil lug" is a paradox, it doesn't exist, meaning there is no transfer of recoil energy. I had one of those designs on my CZ457 and bedded it into the stock such that it made full contact with the action.

 

[tmwinds]

"Floating recoil lug" is a paradox, it doesn't exist, meaning there is no transfer of recoil energy. I had one of those designs on my CZ457 and bedded it into the stock such that it made full contact with the action.

The recoil lug in my CZ 457 would fall out every time I removed the stock. I bedded it into the stock. It doesn’t shoot any different but I don’t lose it anymore.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Is a recoil lug really necessary on a rimfire? We dont use them on ppc/br size guns that weigh the same as a rfbr rifle

 

[pfiori]

Related question
I have an older anschutz 1413 position rifle that was bedded by an Amu armorer way back when with bisonite to show you how long ago
The slot for the lug in the receiver is empty and the lug appears to be cast bisonite.
Is that still common to do today and when doing it do you leave any clearance in the front and top like you would on a center fire bottom and front?
I’m about to have it rebarreled and possibly bedded

On the wood stocked Anschutz target guns, the recoil lug was embedded in the stock, not attached to the action.
Yes, it was common practice to remove the factory lug from the stock and just allow the bedding compound to form a cast in place lug that was left as cast.

 

[pfiori]

Is a recoil lug really necessary on a rimfire? We dont use them on ppc/br size guns that weigh the same as a rfbr rifle

That is a good question and I am sure this will raise a few eyebrows.
Both Bleiker and Grunig & Elmiger do not use a recoil lug on their smallbore actions.

 

[Tim Slater]

Both Bleiker and Grunig & Elmiger do not use a recoil lug on their smallbore actions.

But, Bleiker and G&E both have a flat back to the cuboid action, ie no wobbly tang. Doesn't thecrear face bear against the stock?

 

[pfiori]

But, Bleiker and G&E both have a flat back to the cuboid action, ie no wobbly tang. Doesn't thecrear face bear against the stock?

No

 

[Tim Slater]

How big is the gap? I'm assuming you have measured it on every possible stock from your rather curt reply.

 

[Thauglor]

If he measured one that would be good enough as confirmation that they all do not touch in the back. No offense Tim S but the same could be asked of you, have you measured any to check if they do touch?