repeating action for a dasher?

[nra-for-life]

Hey fellas. Does anyone make an bolt action/magazine that will feed 6dashers? I'm considering the possibility of chambering a varmint rifle in 6 dasher. .. I sure would rather have a bolt action repeater than a single shot. I have seen on you tube one guy modify his setup to make it feed but he didn't go into the details. The ideal situation would be if I could modify a Savage varmint action to make this caliber work. That would be perfect because then I could slap on a criterion and call it a day.

 

[Phil3]

I have been doing research and started work on a project to make a reliable 6mmBR repeater with either a Savage Target Action or Howa action. For the Savage, perhaps the easiest approach is to look at the magazine that Savage used when they made a 6mmBR Long Range Precision Varminter rifle. I do not know the part # for that mag off hand, but have heard rumors it is being discontinued, just as the rifle was. I can cannot say whether the Dasher would reliably feed out of this mag. Visit the Savage Store on www.savagearms.com and find the Store, and then the mags. I believe the mag holds just four rounds, plus one in the chamber.

I am exploring the Howa action because one, I really like the design and build quality. Plus, some have said the Howa action/internal mag or optional detachable mag system will digest 6mmBRs without mods. I will find this out.

Please note feeding may be OK, but ejection problematic. This is because the case pivots around the extractor, and before the short case clears the ejection port, the ejector plunger has run out of travel, dropping the case on top of the mag. This happens most often with slow bolt operation. A permanent fix is to lengthen the ejector plunger.

Be sure to visit www.savageshooters.com and ask your question there.

Phil

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Just did a Remington 700 in 6br. It was originally a .308. All I had to do was put a block in the 308 mag from a 223 mag, shorten the follower and use the 223 spring. Very easy mods. There was an article on here on how to do it if you do a search. I also filed the ejector to allow for a little more protrusion. It feeds and ejects great. Make sure you get a zero free bore. You will want to shoot the 55 nosler ballistic tip at 4000+ fps. Hold dead on to 400 yards!

 

[nra-for-life]

Thanks guys. I was looking at the elisio tube gun chassis also as a possibility. They supposedly have a mag and action that will cycle a dasher?

hey zfastmalibu, I have a rem 700 sitting in the closet that is chambered in 243. I could probably do a conversion to that rifle. I looked for the article on how to modify the magazine but I was unable to find it... any chance you might have a link?

 

[treeman]

Mike Bryant has an article on his web site on the conversion. but you have to glue or screw the spring to the follower or it moves around and has problems. also like one of the previous posters commented the ejector is too short. I made a longer ejector but filing it would be a lot easier. an action with a fixed ejector would be the ticket. good luck with your project!

 

[queen_stick]

Please note feeding may be OK, but ejection problematic. This is because the case pivots around the extractor, and before the short case clears the ejection port, the ejector plunger has run out of travel, dropping the case on top of the mag. This happens most often with slow bolt operation. A permanent fix is to lengthen the ejector plunger.

Phil

That's exactly the trouble I have with mine.

I have a savage long action. Stagger feed. Blind mag. Feeds ok, but ejection is hit or miss.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Her ya go,
http://www.6mmbr.com/Rem700magfix.html
I did not do all the cutting and bending to the mag. I just jb welded the block in the mag.

 

[nra-for-life]

Please note feeding may be OK, but ejection problematic. This is because the case pivots around the extractor, and before the short case clears the ejection port, the ejector plunger has run out of travel, dropping the case on top of the mag. This happens most often with slow bolt operation. A permanent fix is to lengthen the ejector plunger.

Phil

That's exactly the trouble I have with mine.

I have a savage long action. Stagger feed. Blind mag. Feeds ok, but ejection is hit or miss.

hmmm.... so I have been reading... looks like replacing the extractor with the sako style or m16 style fixes the extraction issue?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-jgOtPLjM[/youtube]

Also looks like dave kiff (ptg) has a nice rem 700 replacement bolt with the m16 style extractor already in... anyone tried it on a dasher or 6br?

The more I read about the elisio tube gun chassis the more I want it!

 

[Rtheurer]

I could be wrong here but its not the extraction that is the problem. I can get the round out of the chmber no problem at all like any other .473 bolt case type cartridge ( 308) its the ejection and Ejection port that is the problem. The short little case like to flip backwards in the action port once it clears instead of flipping out of the gun.

Can anyone tell me how much longer your Ejector is from Normal to make this work.

RussT

 

[Erik Cortina]

M16 or Sako extractors are a must to eject 6BR sized cases.

 

[Rtheurer]

M16 or Sako extractors are a must to eject 6BR sized cases.

That might be tough with a SAVAGE bolt head. I knew I should have put the Defiance action in that stock.... Dang.

 

[Rtheurer]

Thats a great idea to extend the groove on the plunger. Might have to give it try to improve ejection.

RussT

 

[BradY]

I put a 6 dasher barrel on a rem 700 with 5 shot 308 AI mag. It feeds fine, though the odd case will flick backwards and stay in the action when cycling the bolt after a shot. Aside from that its fine. Evil with a 22 inch barrel and 55gr nosler BT's in front of 35gr benchmark.

 

[Erik Cortina]

I put a 6 dasher barrel on a rem 700 with 5 shot 308 AI mag. It feeds fine, though the odd case will flick backwards and stay in the action when cycling the bolt after a shot. Aside from that its fine. Evil with a 22 inch barrel and 55gr nosler BT's in front of 35gr benchmark.

Do you have a Sake extractor on your bolt?

 

[alf]

I've done at least a half dozen Dashers on stock 700's with no mag mods needed....

 

[nra-for-life]

hey alf, what (caliber) magazine are you using?

BY1983, just curious... what is your barrel rate of twist?? thanks

 

[alf]

hey alf, what (caliber) magazine are you using?

Just regular 22-250/243/308 stuff.....

 

[Phil3]

M16 or Sako extractors are a must to eject 6BR sized cases.

The reason why (amongst others), I am experimenting with Howa actions for 6mmBR mag feeding. Howa actions comes from the factory with the M16 style extractor. - Phil

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I just got my 700 6 br out to check ejection. If I bring my bolt back as slow as posible I can get a case to pop back into the port. Any type of normal cycling, even slow cycling, ejection is 100%. Try rebarreling your 700 first, you can always swap the bolt if you want.

 

[nra-for-life]

I just got my 700 6 br out to check ejection. If I bring my bolt back as slow as posible I can get a case to pop back into the port. Any type of normal cycling, even slow cycling, ejection is 100%. Try rebarreling your 700 first, you can always swap the bolt if you want.

I think this is good advice... I seems like there are some remedies out there if problems arise. I guess Ill just have to go forward with the re--chambering and see what happens.