I was given 11 Remington factory 140gr core lokts . My intention was to just use these to do a barrel break in on a Remington 700LSS. I shot 1 and cleaned for the first 4 shots and then shot 2 and cleaned which left me 5 rounds left. I fired the 5 remaining rounds to be shocked that they went into under a 1/2" group. I then moved on to my handloaded SST's, and Ballistic tips. The handloads did not perform like the cheap factory rounds. I was running my loads on the high end where as i understand the factory rounds are on the slow side. Im looking for the OAL on the factory rounds so i can load up some 140 core lokts. The gun is only to be used for PA whitetails and i have no need for aerodynamic tips so i have no problem sitting behind a core lokt if that is what she likes. If anyone has any of these laying around that they can measure i would greatly appreciate it .