Remington 700 Carbon Fiber Barrel

[Todd DuBose]

Just bought a new to me Remington 700 22-250 Carbon Fiber barreled rifle. Thinking about building a large caliber rifle with the same setup. Proof Research offers the barrels. Does anyone know about them? Thanks!!

 

[Hoier]

I don't think I'd get one. They are like $900 so if your heart is set on one, I would look at calibers with good barrel life.

 

[L.Sherm]

They are located in Kalispell, Montana have been up and running about a year. Ryan Zinke the former seal team six leader and three other guys I believe with military backgrounds were the ones that got this thing going. If memory serves me correct they developed a carbon fiber barrel for the military

 

[Todd DuBose]

I don't think I'd get one. They are like $900 so if your heart is set on one, I would look at calibers with good barrel life.

Here is my answer to this:::
1st place, Because I can.
2nd, That just happens to be what I want.
3rd, Because I just Love to piss people off doing crazy things with Big calibers and Lightweight bullets. Have you ever seen what this combination does? Don't knock it till you try it...
4th, At my age, Who says I am going to burn the barrel out before I pass...
5th, I'm too Damn Old to pack a 14-15 lb. rifle in the field. That just happens to be what some of my rifles weigh.

And Yes, I am still wanting Positive Input on these barrels. Thank You Very Much...

 

[varmintshooter]

Calm down take it easy

 

[Todd DuBose]

Ha!! Blood Pressure did get up there a little bit! I really could care less what a barrel costs. At my age, I just want a packer that will shoot like this Carbon Fiber 22-250. Sure is nice not having to pack all the extra weight.

 

[varmintshooter]

I have never shot one but do like the idea of a light gun. Do you use a break and how is recoil. Is there a lot muzzle jump?

 

[Todd DuBose]

On the 30/378 Weatherby, Maybe, I will use a brake. But then again, Maybe not as I will be shooting the 125 gr. bullets. It just depends on how much the rifle kicks. The 22-250 does not need a brake. The H&S Stock takes care of keeping it all like it should be.

 

[Todd DuBose]

I know that the barrel is actually just a thin stainless tube wrapped in carbon fiber and they have trouble overheating and throwing fliers if you shoot too many rounds in a row. The carbon can also chip pretty easily if dropped or bumped.

If the carbon barrels shot better than standard barrels, youd see them and read about them in competition matches. You wont find them anywhere in competition that I know of.

The only thing the carbon barrels give you besides marginal weight reduction is being able to say you have a really expensive barrel.

I really hate to Burst your Bubble, But here goes...Hunting Does Not Stem around Benchrest...I am a Hunter looking for a Lighter package, Not sitting on a Bench trying to shoot a Tiny Little Group.... With that being said, Where are you getting your analogy about Barrels being chipped? From what I have seen from the video I watched from Proof Research, They pretty much prove what you say is BS. Oh, I forgot, We are all supposed to Bow Down to the Benchresters on this page. I come to these pages to Learn, Not to be Drug through the Mud.

 

[Pappy42]

I have a carbon fiber barrel on M700 action in 6.5-.284. The best that I recall, it was built from a krieger stainless blank, turned down and then wrapped. It is bedded in a McMillian light weight sporter. The scope is Leupold 10X M1.

I'm nobody and know nothing, and was shooting at 100 yards because that's what I have at my house. I loaded up 50 rounds of my favorite load, and shot 10 consecutive 5round groups at the rate of approximately 1round per minute and with a shot in each of the five groups before shooting the second round of shots, etc. The smallest group was .167 and the largest was .715. I'm totally capable of the larger of those groups at any time, because I'm old, ornery, and would be lying if I said different.

My point? I'm happy with my carbon fiber barrel and it strongly appears that my barrel, performs pretty doggone well in 80 degree F weather for 50 shots!

 

[Todd DuBose]

Pappy pretty much summed it up.
And this is what you come back to Real answers with?
Youre not bursting anyones bubble little man because you dont have a clue what your blabbing about. You watched a video online and now you know everything I guess.

For your information, I have forgot more about the shooting industry than you will ever learn because you shoot your mouth off and try to convince people you are God... You know everything behind that computer. I live it everyday Mr. Know It All. This is what I do and do it very well. So, Go crawl on to your bench and shoot some flys off your targets. Since you have such a Stinch around you. Come on down here and let this Little Man...Teach you something...I'm not hard to find...Blowhard...

 

[DT]

Todd

Proof Research bought the rights to the ABS carbon wrap barrels. The wrap on these barrels acts as a heat sink and is the only barrel wrap to actually help draw heat away from the barrel liner. Cools down way faster than any conventional barrel and doesn't trap the heat inside like other wrapped barrels.
As to chipping, I've seen a demo barrel used as a baseball bat and thrown into gravel and not chip. Had a full bull barrel chambered in a 6.5x284 that was 30" long plus a muzzle brake--the whole rifle, with 6.5x20 Leo, weighed in at around 10.5 pounds and had prairie dog kills out to 1,200+ yards.
Yeah, they're not cheap, but for a hunting rifle so what, you're not going to wear out the barrel in a lifetime.

 

[Todd DuBose]

DT, You and Pappy have pretty much made my mind up to try one on a bigger caliber for hunting. I don't shoot more than one or two rounds at a target and if I do have to shoot more than that, I find myself trying to set the shot up at a closer range. My main reason for wanting to go to this type setup is weight savings plus still being able to shoot more rounds if necessary. Some of the (Quoted)...(keyboard commandos sure talk big!!) But when it comes right down to it, They listen to that little flapping thing on their backside and then spout their mouth off. Thanks for your input as well as Pappy. Todd DuBose

 

[effendude]

Todd,
Build on. I am a competitive shooter and a hunter. I have watched with great interest as the technology regarding the wrapped barrels has changed. The older systems saved weight but the epoxies used to hold the barrel and the carbon together acted as an insulator and the barrels quickly overheated, 2-3 shots. Proof has this solved with better technology. Their barrels actually remain cooler than simple steel ones. Now that may not change the temp in the throat, but it does help with round walking off point of aim. They control their entire process now as they make their own cut rifled blanks.

I ordered a barrel from Proof at SCI in Vegas last month. I talked to their staff several times and then several more times when back at home in MN. We also discussed the possibility of a test for an F-Class barrel but price is holding me back from that experiment. I was impressed by their honesty when they told me the barrel they had just finished for me didn't meet their quality specs and they would get me another. How often does that happen?

Keep us posted and I will do the same,
Scott

 

[hogpatrol]

Todd, Thanks for the post and bringing the carbon barrel to my attention. I was not aware of this technology. The weight difference is impressive. Looks like it'll make a great hunt gun. Hog

 

[Hoier]

I don't think I'd get one. They are like $900 so if your heart is set on one, I would look at calibers with good barrel life.

Here is my answer to this:::
1st place, Because I can.
2nd, That just happens to be what I want.
3rd, Because I just Love to piss people off doing crazy things with Big calibers and Lightweight bullets. Have you ever seen what this combination does? Don't knock it till you try it...
4th, At my age, Who says I am going to burn the barrel out before I pass...
5th, I'm too Damn Old to pack a 14-15 lb. rifle in the field. That just happens to be what some of my rifles weigh.

And Yes, I am still wanting Positive Input on these barrels. Thank You Very Much...

I do know, I'm the guy who helped you with the load for the 30-378 with 125s. So yes I know how fun it is.

 

[Shynloco]

DT, You and Pappy have pretty much made my mind up to try one on a bigger caliber for hunting. I don't shoot more than one or two rounds at a target and if I do have to shoot more than that, I find myself trying to set the shot up at a closer range. My main reason for wanting to go to this type setup is weight savings plus still being able to shoot more rounds if necessary. Some of the (Quoted)...(keyboard commandos sure talk big!!) But when it comes right down to it, They listen to that little flapping thing on their backside and then spout their mouth off. Thanks for your input as well as Pappy. Todd DuBose

Todd,
For what this is worth and I know zip about carbon fiber barrels, except for earlier this week, I was at the range here in So Cal. One the members of my Gun Club is a Gunsmith and was testing a rifle one of his clients had built. It was a .338 bolt gun with a "Christensen" Carbon Fiber Barrel, a Titanium Remington 700 Action and hell I don't know the stock manufacturer, but very light. The rifle also has a custom suppressor on it for obvious reasons. I got to hold this rig and with a BIG scope, weighed around 10 - 12lbs. Sounds like something right up your alley and something us old farts would enjoy on a hunt.

Alex

 

[Rtheurer]

Put one together in a Remington 700, Chambered in 300 RSAUM for my older borther. It was before Proof took over ABS and that is who I got it from. Its a 26" M24 Countour 308 1:11.25 Twist Rock Creek Blank. It shoots very well with 165gr Balistic Tips as it was for a Hunting Rifle for My brother. Also loaded up some 168's I had layin around from the ole M14days and it shot those real well also. Shoots in the .3 pretty easy with 5 rounds. Plenty good for him to hunt deer with. He needs all the precision he can get.. Ha!

Nice and Light and shoots well. It will last him his whole life and Ill probably get it back after he is gone. At that time they went for $600+ Boy they have really gone up in price now.

RussT