Remington 40x or Savage 12 f class?

[Kenny474]

With the Remington, after you get the barrel machined by the smith, (chambered, threaded and properly headspaced) you can screw them on and off without having to adjust the barrel nut as you would with the savage as the barrel threads have a shoulder that butts up to the action. You still need an action wrench and barrel vise, but it is easier to achieve the exact same headspace as it is constant on the Remington, where as the Savage needs to be set with the barrel nut. So it is simpler once you have both barrels machined, though with the Savage you simply order the barrel without needing to send the action to the smith.

They both have their own high points, and as I said to start, the Remington 40X is a nice action. It just requires a smith to do things that can be done by yourself on the Savage.

You can buy barrels for the Remington that use a Savage style barrel nut as well if you choose to go that route.

Either way, you are going to end up with a nice rifle. You just need to figure out what has more high points in your eyes and go from there.

I only prefer Savage as I have seen what can be done with simple bolt-ons and zero machine work. For just under $1000 I built a .25MOA rifle. If I can do it, anyone can.

 

[camac]

With the Remington, after you get the barrel machined by the smith, (chambered, threaded and properly headspaced) you can screw them on and off without having to adjust the barrel nut as you would with the savage as the barrel threads have a shoulder that butts up to the action. You still need an action wrench and barrel vise, but it is easier to achieve the exact same headspace as it is constant on the Remington, where as the Savage needs to be set with the barrel nut. So it is simpler once you have both barrels machined, though with the Savage you simply order the barrel without needing to send the action to the smith.

They both have their own high points, and as I said to start, the Remington 40X is a nice action. It just requires a smith to do things that can be done by yourself on the Savage.

You can buy barrels for the Remington that use a Savage style barrel nut as well if you choose to go that route.

Either way, you are going to end up with a nice rifle. You just need to figure out what has more high points in your eyes and go from there.

I only prefer Savage as I have seen what can be done with simple bolt-ons and zero machine work. For just under $1000 I built a .25MOA rifle. If I can do it, anyone can.

You can also set the savages up with a shoulder to screw up against instead of the barrel nut. I do this with mine as I personally prefer to not have to muck around with barrel nuts and go gauges in the field - Also less chance of missing the headspace by a couple of thou. A simple action and barrel wrench/vice and I can do it in the field or range in 5 minutes. It also seems to have less POI change this way (I still have both types nut and no nut). Plus you should really remove ejector from bolt to do savage nut system properly (so as to repeatedly get same headspace). Also scope and stock have to be removed. As stated above the biggest advantage of nut system is to buy drop in barrels and avoid the gunsmith.
However by going with the shoulder system (and making a rear action entry wrench and welding it to a 1/2 inch drive socket) you can put a torque wrench on the action end and a barrel vice on other end Just in front of stock. You can whip barrels on and off with consistency in no time. The POI can be amazingly close (no scope and stock removal) and can have you shooting a switch barrel system easily.

 

[bozo699]

Thanks fellas I have to make a decision in a few days on this and I appreciate all the input you have given me.
Wayne.

 

[xpfuzz]

Give me the remmy with a jewel trigger anytime...

 

[Taildrag15X]

Check out the Savage Switch barrel system that PALMA shooter and gunsmith larry Racine offers:

www.lprgunsmith.com

 

[bozo699]

Well guys I actually decided on a 40x rangemaster,emailed rem no reply-called the custom shop there measage said your call is very valueable to us? no reply, so I had local hardware and gun shop call them to order one for me. multiple messages he left with them, Huh? well needless to say I ordered the savage today!
6.5*.284 f class. ordered today shipped today,should be here monday cant wait! I normally don't buy factory guns and I definetly wont be ordering any new rems unless I just want the action. Anyway thanks to you all for your input I will repost and let you know how it shoots.I think I may take it to Montanna in three weeks and break in the barrel,1000yd style! A special thanks to Kenny474 you have helped me out on several posts here on 6br.

 

[Kenny474]

Thanks for your kindness. I'm just glad I could help. Sorry you had issues with Remington's customer service, but I think you will be happy with the Savage. You had really picked two guns that came down to personal preference more than either being of lesser quality.
That 6.5-284 is a real screamer for it's bore size, I think you'll like it.

Good luck in Montana! I hope it shoots well for you. Please update with your results.

Kenny

 

[bozo699]

hey guys,
The f class showed up today. Savage did a excelent job shipping, double boxed,styrafoam cut out for gun to fit in.Barrel was clean I hope sinclair and midway hurry up and get my brass, dies , and bullets to me ! Time is running out to get it ready for Montana.Hope it shoots as good as it looks.
Wayne.

 

[flatlander]

Wayne,

Good luck with the new Savage. Depending on how much & how often you shoot the 6.5x284, you could be finding out how easy it is to change out Savage bbls. in short order - most of the guys I know with 6.5x284s say barrel life is usually around 1200-1500rds, with a few saying they've shot-out bbls. in as few as 800rds.

One of the Dashers I built was on a Savage Precision Target action, and I did away with the barrel nut by simply turning a shoulder on the bbl. when I fitted it to the action (same as you'd do for a Rem 700). The advantages to doing it this way have already been mentioned in a previous post; I'd strongly recommend taking this route after you shoot out the OEM Savage bbl. and replace it with a custom one (or two, or three...).

 

[bozo699]

Dennis,
Thanks for your input,I imagine I will be buying a barrel or two right away. I hope the factory barrel shoots good but I have my doubts,Ill know in a few days.It sounds like to me if you have the right euipment it wouldn't be to difficult to have a switch barrel gun,might be kind of handy and fun.
Wayne.