Remington 40x - 308-7.62Nato need help with a 1 or 2 piece pic rail for a scope

[Ancients]

I just recently purchased used a Remington 40x in 308, this is a repeater action with a 7.62 marked SS barrel. IT comes with the Redfield Olympic rear and front sights, and a palma style stock with the metal insert in the bottom. It has a Serial # 046xxx C, with the proof/makers marks on the right side of the barrel on the left is only this mark - 7.62 Nato. I did get a hold of the original seller, this was a consignment rifle he told us that he was the original owner and specifically ordered it with the 7.62 SS barrel from the custom shop instead of putting on a traditional blued barrel. I'm currently not sure of the age, I should have asked that question but I didnt want to bother the gentlemen it being near 6pm. I will call Remington tomorrow morning to find out that info. Being a repeater I may save the stock wrap it in a safe silicone sock with preservatives on the wood, and update it to a newer BR stock or chassis for BR/F class etc. I keep seeing EGW come up as a suggestion for the 1 piece scope rail but I had thought Warren or another company may make a better one especially for the 40x. At this time I will be temporarily using either a Sig Tango 4 4-14x44 scope, or SWFA fixed 16x scope I have sitting on my 40x in 22 LR. I'm attending school right now so a lot of money is going towards that, when finished I do plan on putting on a nicer scope like the BigSky III, or NF I believe its the BEAST, possibly a Leupold. I purchased the rifle at under $950 roughly, I'm not sure how much the c versions go for as I mostly see XB, or 40 X info available. I apologize for the long read, Im looking for suggestions on the 1 piece top rail for the rifle to mount a scope, I would appreciate it. It has a very nice very short I can guess its in ounces, trigger pull but I wont know the exact until my gunsmith friend uses his tool to test it. I was saving up for a custom action like BAT etc, but I do so enjoy my 40x in 22 and this being a repeater I didnt see many of them so I took the plunge. Thank you for looking at this, if you have a suggestion for the scope rail 1 piece or even 2 piece if that will be better I will definitely look at it.

 

[marazzi59]

Egw

 

[Albany Mountain]

EGW would be just fine. No other base else is going to make it shoot any better. Its probably a late 1970 model gun with the position, across the course stock (not palma). Especially in a repeater. Most were probably repeaters as single shots seem harder to come by. If it has the curved trigger with grooves, it is probably a original Remington trigger and if it is in the ounces, it may be a good idea to have someone check it out for safety reasons. They did make a two ounce trigger but those usually came with the benchrest rifles and international rifles.

 

[pintopete]

Ancients, Remington 40X should be the same as a 700 for scope bases. Up to you if you want a one piece or two. Two piece might allow better access for loading, etc. Any quality base for the application will work. I prefer steel over aluminum. Not sure if weight is an issue for you, but the weight difference is negligible. It looks as though your rifle was set up for a Unertl type target scope, one base on the front ring, one on the barrel. Save those original bases and the screws! I prefer Burris Signature Zee rings with the polymer inserts. They wont marr or crush the scope tube unless it gets the cave man treatment.

Nice rifle. Should shoot well for you. You got it for a good price also.

Best of luck, Peter.

 

[Ancients]

EGW would be just fine. No other base else is going to make it shoot any better. Its probably a late 1970 model gun with the position, across the course stock (not palma). Especially in a repeater. Most were probably repeaters as single shots seem harder to come by. If it has the curved trigger with grooves, it is probably a original Remington trigger and if it is in the ounces, it may be a good idea to have someone check it out for safety reasons. They did make a two ounce trigger but those usually came with the benchrest rifles and international rifles.

I apologize I'm still new to the palma/position styles I new it was a unique stock and thought it was palma my mistake my 40x CMP 22 is set up as palma (second stock for 50yd BR) it has a different stock entirely. I will be bringing it into my friends shop hes a gunsmith here in AZ does great work, I didnt quite feel grooves on the trigger, but I did also send an email to Remington to find out some more information about the rifles year of manufacture, and possibly any other info they may have. I will definitely look at the EGW, but also as pinopete mentioned I may also look at Warne or Leupold just need a good one in my price range and I do prefer steel over aluminum weight is not a problem at all. I have a set of Z rings ive used on the Sig Tango 4 scope love them, and I will probably be buying a similar set again for this rifle. I will be putting the original bases and screws marked and bagged into a storage area just for these parts, it was set up for the Unertl scope in fact the 40x 22 in the shop has that scope on it as well. I'm very excited about the rifle, and I hope to shoot a few local matches here with it but probably in a BR stock (most likely a chassis with magazine use) vs position depending on my bad leg a motorcycle accident leaves me with a few options to work with. Then after the barrel has been depleted, I will be re-barreling this rifle in a different caliber such as 6mm GT for some long distance work thank you all for the prompt reply I appreciate it very much.

 

[butchlambert]

If it actually a Remington Barrel, it will be marked as such and will be code dated. How is your barrel marked?

 

[Ancients]

If it actually a Remington Barrel, it will be marked as such and will be code dated. How is your barrel marked?

The only two markings I found I’ll post pics of, one is the caliber 7.62 NATO and the other is REP I think and a symbol of a triangle with the letter t or y in it. There unfortunately isn’t anything else on the barrel, and I’m a little hesitant to take it apart at the moment I think I’ll let my gunsmith friend do that and in case it needs bedding I can have him redo it. I did send the rifles serial number to Remington, hopefully they will email me back some information soon.

 

[Ancients]

I did look and feel the trigger shoe, it has the grooves you can see and feel on it. I’m still not sure if it’s the original and set as bench rest or aftermarket. Once I get more information from Remington, and have the gunsmith overlook everything I’ll put that info here as well.

 

[butchlambert]

Good luck. The serial number does not tell Remington or you the date of build.

 

[jepp2]

if you have a suggestion for the scope rail 1 piece or even 2 piece if that will be better I will definitely look at it.

You have a Remington 700 SA, when you are looking for scope bases. Assume yours has the original 6-48 threading.

The nicest rails I have encountered were made by Cameron Murphy

https://www.murphyprecision.com/

But there are so many options for rails, the list is almost endless.

I tend to gravitate towards Warne, using their 2 piece mounts, but they also have many options. Mostly because I like their rings.

https://warnescopemounts.com/shop/?wpce_search=742&post_type=product

 

[pintopete]

At one point in history, Remington could tell you all about your 40x. Last time I spoke with them, they advised that all the old 40x records had been destroyed or lost in the Custom Shop's move out of Ilion. Unfortunate, but likely accurate. As Butch indicated, usually the date of a Remington 700 type rifle is indicated by the codes on the barrel. I don't see them in the pictures you shared. I'm not sure that the alpha date coding on the barrel was used on 40x rifles.

 

[Ancients]

At one point in history, Remington could tell you all about your 40x. Last time I spoke with them, they advised that all the old 40x records had been destroyed or lost in the Custom Shop's move out of Ilion. Unfortunate, but likely accurate. As Butch indicated, usually the date of a Remington 700 type rifle is indicated by the codes on the barrel. I don't see them in the pictures you shared. I'm not sure that the alpha date coding on the barrel was used on 40x rifles.

Thats always soul crushing to hear that information was lost or destroyed when they moved, I'm hoping maybe it was made late enough to have some info lol. I did find a good deal on a 1 piece Warne rail with 20moa which I will be adding here shortly, saving the original Unertl scope bases for later use or sale. I may hopefully find the code on a different part of the rifles barrel when I remove it from the stock, and move it into a new chassis from MDT. Although it may not be an older 40x I'm still happy to have this rifle, I've begun reloading on a friends Forester arbor press going to test it this weekend with those rounds and some factory rounds. Thank you for trying to help me find the information on the rifle, hopefully maybe I can get more info from Remington if it wasnt destroyed in the move.

 

[pintopete]

Manufacture Dates | Remington Society of America

 

[Ancients]

Ok so no other markings found on the barrel, so I’m not exactly sure when it was made, Remington hasn’t sent a reply email kinda figured that was going to happen. The original owner had the screws holding the stock so loose I could un screw it by hand. But he decided to dump enough red locktite onto the screws for the barrel, action and rear sight base screws I had to borrow a heat gun and 30 to 40 minutes later got the majority of them removed. Unfortunately I couldn’t get the last screw out of the rear sight, we can see what looks like dry old locktite maybe a hint of rust but it’s way to tight for me and a friend to break away even with heat. So I’ll take it to a gunsmith to remove the last one, rather be safe and have them do it vs me destroying something. But I did manage to look at my barrel on the 40xb 22 LR, it has has WKLD or WKLB on the left side of the barrel and the makers mark on the right I’ve added a picture as well for it, I’ve got the certificate of auth from the CMP on that one luckily my friend who owned it last created an entire manual for that rifle. He was a teacher in the Airforce, retired as a chief in Arizona and was into a lot of BR shooting especially with the 40x in 22lr. He recommended coming here to Accurate Shooter for lots of advice and information, he is a great friend and mentor and he was as always correct that this forum and site has great members and lots of info to read and learn from.

 

[NZ_Fclass]

You may find some info on here: https://www.remingtonsociety.org/manufacture-dates/