Rem 700 Bolt Shroud & Firing Pin Questions

[Nodak7mm]

I was playing around with some neat new tools Santa left me and I disassembled one of my J-lock 700 bolt assy. Removed the shoud and was looking at the cheesy J-lock and saw how it rotated and locked down.

But, why not just rotate the firing pin 180* and eliminate the possibility of the J-lock locking? Is this feasible instead of replacing the shroud and firing pin. I am definatly gonna replace the spring. But if rotating the firing pin 180* would prevent the J-lock from ever inadvertantly locking, why spend the pennies to replace it?

Just a thought. Comments welcome.

Rod

 

[BoydAllen]

People look at the J lock spring and how it snakes, and think that it needs fixing. Before you do, shoot it, and then after you replace the assembly, test it again, with everything else the same, and come back and tell us what your results are.

 

[GerryM]

The spring is the main problem.

 

[fdshuster]

rod: One of my six Rem700's had the j-lock. I never used it, never had a problem. Bought the Holland firing pin replacement/shroud $60, self-installed and again, have had no problems, or changes. The trigger weight , firing pin indent., etc. all remains the same, but I did get rid of the "lawyer" j-lock & to me that made it worthwhile.

 

[Preacher]

That snakey spring can and will cause a ton of accuracy problems....

 

[fdshuster]

preacher: I've also seen the Holland ads showing the "snakey" firing pin springs. Then, last Summer bought the Kleindorst firing pin/bolt take-apart tool, (after I blew a few primers & saw the need to be able to quickly dis-assemble a Rem700 bolt), used it to change out the j-lock. The original Remington firing pin spring was fairly straight, not even close to the pictured one in the ad. Then, while dis-assembling the other 5 Rem 700 bolts, to clean, check for debris, etc., also noted that for the most part, all 5 springs were basically straight, and I know for a fact these other springs are factory original also. So, is the ad showing an example of the worst possible, while others may be fairly straight? I even said to myself at the time, "I do not see this as a problem".

 

[Nodak7mm]

Frank,

Thats what lead me to ask the question about the firing pin. The spring on mine and one other is a "snake" and I know that it wastes energy binding on the inside of the bolt. So I want to replace them, but not so sure about replacing the firing pin or the shroud. Maybe I'll just "fix" the J-lock assy from ever moving? Or something else. But yes I sure see the need to replace the spring...

From the current blizzard station..

Rod

 

[fdshuster]

Rod: When I dis-assembled all my Rem. bolts, if any of them had the "snake" spring I intended to replace the entire assemblies with the Holland replacement shroud's (firing pin, spring & cocking piece). Since they were all straight I saw no need (in my case), to replace them. They are a quality product.

 

[GerryM]

I guess that depends on how new the action is. Many of the older ones had snakey spring . I replaced mine. One new action that was built as a m24 has the holland firing pin and spring. that one was all over the place.
I know for sure that it had to be rubbing the bolt body .