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Reloader #17 in 6.5 X47
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6.5 x 47
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
120 Grain VIHT N550 38.0 2657 42.5 2964 99.3%
120 Grain WW 760 38.5 2655 43.0 2972 99.4%
120 Grain Ramshot Hunter 40.0 2672 44.4 2975 101.6%
120 Grain NORMA 204 39.0 2590 43.6 2918 104.6%
120 Grain IMR 4350 38.0 2673 42.0 2955 103.5%
120 Grain H414 38.0 2612 42.2 2902 95.6%
120 Grain VARGET 34.0 2617 38.0 2880 92.1%
120 Grain RE-15 35.0 2665 38.8 2923 94.6%
120 Grain AA 4350 38.5 2662 42.6 2960 103.8%
6.5x 47 Lapua
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
130 Grain VIHT N550 36.5 2575 40.6 2853 99.4%
130 Grain WW 760 37.0 2577 41.0 2856 99.4%
130 Grain Ramshot Hunter 38.0 2564 42.5 2871 101.9%
130 Grain NORMA 204 37.5 2517 41.7 2815 104.3%
130 Grain IMR 4350 36.0 2556 40.2 2850 103.8%
130 Grain H414 36.0 2497 40.2 2786 95.4%
130 Grain VARGET 32.5 2518 36.2 2759 92.0%
130 Grain RE -15 33.5 2570 37.0 2804 94.5%
130 Grain AA 4350 36.5 2549 40.6 2843 103.7%
130 Grain Hybrid 100V 36.0 2537 40.0 2798 107.5%
130 Grain RE 17 35.5 2580 39.6 2855 96.1%
130 Grain H4350 36.5 2562 40.6 2853 104.0%
6.5 X 47 Lapua
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
140 Grain VIHT N550 36.5 2521 40.5 2776 97.5%
140 Grain WW 760 36.5 2492 40.9 2784 97.5%
140 Grain Ramshot Hunter 38.0 2513 42.3 2791 99.8%
140 Grain NORMA 204 37.5 2468 41.5 2738 102.1%
140 Grain IMR 4350 36.0 2504 39.9 2763 101.3%
140 Grain H414 36.0 2446 40.0 2709 93.4%
140 Grain VARGET 32.5 2456 36.0 2671 90.0%
140 Grain RE-15 33.0 2477 36.8 2719 92.5%
140 Grain AA 4350 36.0 2465 40.2 2749 101.0%
140 Grain RE 17 34.5 2478 38.7 2749 94.3%
140 Grain H4350 35.5 2465 39.8 2758 102.2%
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6.5 x 47
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
120 Grain VIHT N550 38.0 2657 42.5 2964 99.3%
120 Grain WW 760 38.5 2655 43.0 2972 99.4%
120 Grain Ramshot Hunter 40.0 2672 44.4 2975 101.6%
120 Grain NORMA 204 39.0 2590 43.6 2918 104.6%
120 Grain IMR 4350 38.0 2673 42.0 2955 103.5%
120 Grain H414 38.0 2612 42.2 2902 95.6%
120 Grain VARGET 34.0 2617 38.0 2880 92.1%
120 Grain RE-15 35.0 2665 38.8 2923 94.6%
120 Grain AA 4350 38.5 2662 42.6 2960 103.8%
6.5x 47 Lapua
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
130 Grain VIHT N550 36.5 2575 40.6 2853 99.4%
130 Grain WW 760 37.0 2577 41.0 2856 99.4%
130 Grain Ramshot Hunter 38.0 2564 42.5 2871 101.9%
130 Grain NORMA 204 37.5 2517 41.7 2815 104.3%
130 Grain IMR 4350 36.0 2556 40.2 2850 103.8%
130 Grain H414 36.0 2497 40.2 2786 95.4%
130 Grain VARGET 32.5 2518 36.2 2759 92.0%
130 Grain RE -15 33.5 2570 37.0 2804 94.5%
130 Grain AA 4350 36.5 2549 40.6 2843 103.7%
130 Grain Hybrid 100V 36.0 2537 40.0 2798 107.5%
130 Grain RE 17 35.5 2580 39.6 2855 96.1%
130 Grain H4350 36.5 2562 40.6 2853 104.0%
6.5 X 47 Lapua
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
140 Grain VIHT N550 36.5 2521 40.5 2776 97.5%
140 Grain WW 760 36.5 2492 40.9 2784 97.5%
140 Grain Ramshot Hunter 38.0 2513 42.3 2791 99.8%
140 Grain NORMA 204 37.5 2468 41.5 2738 102.1%
140 Grain IMR 4350 36.0 2504 39.9 2763 101.3%
140 Grain H414 36.0 2446 40.0 2709 93.4%
140 Grain VARGET 32.5 2456 36.0 2671 90.0%
140 Grain RE-15 33.0 2477 36.8 2719 92.5%
140 Grain AA 4350 36.0 2465 40.2 2749 101.0%
140 Grain RE 17 34.5 2478 38.7 2749 94.3%
140 Grain H4350 35.5 2465 39.8 2758 102.2%
Hi, I'm a UK based "Newbie" on this forum............
My current 6.5x47 load is 40.7 grains of RS60 (aka Elcho 17, RE17), Lapua 123gn Scenar, Lapua case, and KVB-223 primer.(Russian).
This gives an MV of 3010fps, ES 6 (Magnetospeed), at an ambient temp of approx 39F.
RS60 is a current version of RE17, manufactured by Reload Swiss http://www.reload-swiss.com/en/reload_swiss/index.php
My rifle is based on a Tikka M595 action, with a 30" heavy Lothar-Walther 8-twist barrel, chambered for the 123 Scenars.
Be aware that this load may not be safe in your rifle. Always follow manufacturers recommendations for starting loads.
PeteW
My current 6.5x47 load is 40.7 grains of RS60 (aka Elcho 17, RE17), Lapua 123gn Scenar, Lapua case, and KVB-223 primer.(Russian).
This gives an MV of 3010fps, ES 6 (Magnetospeed), at an ambient temp of approx 39F.
RS60 is a current version of RE17, manufactured by Reload Swiss http://www.reload-swiss.com/en/reload_swiss/index.php
My rifle is based on a Tikka M595 action, with a 30" heavy Lothar-Walther 8-twist barrel, chambered for the 123 Scenars.
Be aware that this load may not be safe in your rifle. Always follow manufacturers recommendations for starting loads.
PeteW
Can you get RS powders in general? If you can, RS-52 is also worth trying in 6.5x47. It's a high energy powder which gives 100-200fps more velocity at normal pressures. I'm working on it at the moment. In 308, I'm getting 3050fps with 155 grain Sierra MK's. (Bartlein 30" 11 twist barrel)
PeteW
PeteW
The OP's question shifts from Re17 to Re15 mid post without skipping a beat - typo or intention?
My experience with the 6.5X47L and backed up by many other users I've spoken to is that there are most unusually two groups of rifles / barrels 'out there' when it comes to 120-130gn bullets. Some perform brilliantly with H. VarGet, Alliant Re15 and one presumes with other powders in this general burning rate such as Viht N540 and the new IMR Enduron powder (we've yet to see any in the UK). Others, my own rifle included, will not produce anything like decent groups with this powder class, but move onto something a bit slower burning such Viht N150, N550 and the 4350s and results are transformed.
So, the first thing is find out which of these groups your barrel likes and as a rule ignore well meaning but sometimes misleading advice on the lines of such and such a powder is THE ONE to use.
If you have a VarGet lover and you can actually get the stuff (an even bigger issue in Europe than the US believe it or not - the European importer now has a staggering 15,000lb on back-order!) then that is still usually the best choice, although a minority on this side of the Atlantic anyway prefer Re15. My experience of Nitrochemie Ei-N130 (RS52) which goes back to trial bulk batches imported here a couple of years back is that wherever VarGet works well so does this powder, and usually at very similar charge weights. (But RS52 is usually capable of producing higher MVs, no doubt at the expense of shorter barrel life, it being a 'high-energy' propellant with infused nitroglycerin.) In my 6.5X47L it produced excellent velocities and very similar groups to VarGet and Re15 (ie very poor!).
Alliant Re17 / NC RS60 has a similar burning rate to N550 and the 4350s, so should be an acceptable, maybe excellent, performer in the cartridge if you have a 'slower powder lover'. Two things are certain - it'll produce higher MVs than the 4350s can do safely, and if you load for and use that extra 75-150 fps, you'll see a considerable increase in barrel wear and tear. My own entirely personal view is that it's also not quite ideally suited to the case capacity / charge to bore ratio and that makes it 'finicky' - it'll sometimes work brilliantly, sometimes not, and sometimes both things in a single cartridge / rifle. (I've seen this afflict several people and not just in this cartridge.) Go down a calibre with the same case size and it's a different matter - the 6X47L, 6XC, 6mm SM and SMACK (Swiss Match and SM Ackley), 105s and Re17 usually takes some beating - small groups, fantastic MVs, small MV spreads, cr*p barrel life.
I'd say that if your rifle prefers the slightly slower burners, H4350 will most likely turn out to be the best choice on the round and covering all conditions. Since we can't get it here either, or at any rate only occasionally and often at considerable expense, Viht N150 is a viable (and MUCH cheaper) alternative for us in Europe, although it's a bit 'pressure-spiky'. I've also been playing with another Nitrochemie RS powder that is Europe only so far, RS62 which is very similar to traditional long-cut 4350s. Originally developed by NC for the .270 Winchester as a basic no-nonsense single-base tubular propellant, it looks like it may also suit the 6.5X47L with 120s and upwards, having had good results with the two new Lapua Scenar Ls (120 + 136gn) in testing. The 136gn version will get its first competition outing next weekend in a 500 yard 'Fly Shoot' comp, so I'll get an idea how it'll likely do in mid-range F and BR. Like older IMR powders, it is a sod to measure in the RCBS Chargemaster though, regularly over-throwing charges by 0.2/0.3gn - I'll have to look at drinking straw mods.
The other factor to bear in mind with Re17 / RS60 and other high-energy types such as N550 is one we rarely worry about much in the chilly UK (and it is just that here today, barely in the 60s!) - temperature sensitivity. Re17 has acquired a reputation for that if the various posts on this forum are to be believed. Even here in Britain, some explain its 'finicky' / inconsistent performance on this factor, the powder maybe having a narrow pressure band where it really performs and a temperature change taking it out of that - sheer conjecture, but maybe just something in it. That would also apply to RS52, but not RS62.
My experience with the 6.5X47L and backed up by many other users I've spoken to is that there are most unusually two groups of rifles / barrels 'out there' when it comes to 120-130gn bullets. Some perform brilliantly with H. VarGet, Alliant Re15 and one presumes with other powders in this general burning rate such as Viht N540 and the new IMR Enduron powder (we've yet to see any in the UK). Others, my own rifle included, will not produce anything like decent groups with this powder class, but move onto something a bit slower burning such Viht N150, N550 and the 4350s and results are transformed.
So, the first thing is find out which of these groups your barrel likes and as a rule ignore well meaning but sometimes misleading advice on the lines of such and such a powder is THE ONE to use.
If you have a VarGet lover and you can actually get the stuff (an even bigger issue in Europe than the US believe it or not - the European importer now has a staggering 15,000lb on back-order!) then that is still usually the best choice, although a minority on this side of the Atlantic anyway prefer Re15. My experience of Nitrochemie Ei-N130 (RS52) which goes back to trial bulk batches imported here a couple of years back is that wherever VarGet works well so does this powder, and usually at very similar charge weights. (But RS52 is usually capable of producing higher MVs, no doubt at the expense of shorter barrel life, it being a 'high-energy' propellant with infused nitroglycerin.) In my 6.5X47L it produced excellent velocities and very similar groups to VarGet and Re15 (ie very poor!).
Alliant Re17 / NC RS60 has a similar burning rate to N550 and the 4350s, so should be an acceptable, maybe excellent, performer in the cartridge if you have a 'slower powder lover'. Two things are certain - it'll produce higher MVs than the 4350s can do safely, and if you load for and use that extra 75-150 fps, you'll see a considerable increase in barrel wear and tear. My own entirely personal view is that it's also not quite ideally suited to the case capacity / charge to bore ratio and that makes it 'finicky' - it'll sometimes work brilliantly, sometimes not, and sometimes both things in a single cartridge / rifle. (I've seen this afflict several people and not just in this cartridge.) Go down a calibre with the same case size and it's a different matter - the 6X47L, 6XC, 6mm SM and SMACK (Swiss Match and SM Ackley), 105s and Re17 usually takes some beating - small groups, fantastic MVs, small MV spreads, cr*p barrel life.
I'd say that if your rifle prefers the slightly slower burners, H4350 will most likely turn out to be the best choice on the round and covering all conditions. Since we can't get it here either, or at any rate only occasionally and often at considerable expense, Viht N150 is a viable (and MUCH cheaper) alternative for us in Europe, although it's a bit 'pressure-spiky'. I've also been playing with another Nitrochemie RS powder that is Europe only so far, RS62 which is very similar to traditional long-cut 4350s. Originally developed by NC for the .270 Winchester as a basic no-nonsense single-base tubular propellant, it looks like it may also suit the 6.5X47L with 120s and upwards, having had good results with the two new Lapua Scenar Ls (120 + 136gn) in testing. The 136gn version will get its first competition outing next weekend in a 500 yard 'Fly Shoot' comp, so I'll get an idea how it'll likely do in mid-range F and BR. Like older IMR powders, it is a sod to measure in the RCBS Chargemaster though, regularly over-throwing charges by 0.2/0.3gn - I'll have to look at drinking straw mods.
The other factor to bear in mind with Re17 / RS60 and other high-energy types such as N550 is one we rarely worry about much in the chilly UK (and it is just that here today, barely in the 60s!) - temperature sensitivity. Re17 has acquired a reputation for that if the various posts on this forum are to be believed. Even here in Britain, some explain its 'finicky' / inconsistent performance on this factor, the powder maybe having a narrow pressure band where it really performs and a temperature change taking it out of that - sheer conjecture, but maybe just something in it. That would also apply to RS52, but not RS62.
Judd
Gold $$ Contributor
Nice post Laurie...I always enjoy you sharing your 6.5x47 knowledge.
It also enlightened me on trying the faster buring powders, I've got a shorter freebore (.125) 6.5x47 that I just spun off my action and put a good shooting dasher barrel on to prove to me if my problems are barrel or action/stock/trigger setup. I can't get the dang thing to shoot 5 together to save my butt...it will shoot 4 in a ragged hole but one of the 5 will be 1/8 - 1/4" away from the group. No rhyme or reason and no consistency as to which one it will throw. It did it with both 136's and 130's...but I've only tried h4350...I've got Varget and RL15 that I can try once I convince myself it isn't an action/stock/trigger issue.
Again, thanks!
It also enlightened me on trying the faster buring powders, I've got a shorter freebore (.125) 6.5x47 that I just spun off my action and put a good shooting dasher barrel on to prove to me if my problems are barrel or action/stock/trigger setup. I can't get the dang thing to shoot 5 together to save my butt...it will shoot 4 in a ragged hole but one of the 5 will be 1/8 - 1/4" away from the group. No rhyme or reason and no consistency as to which one it will throw. It did it with both 136's and 130's...but I've only tried h4350...I've got Varget and RL15 that I can try once I convince myself it isn't an action/stock/trigger issue.
Again, thanks!
RS60 temperature sensitiity is real and not just conjecture i an my shooting buddy have so far on the logbook info on cca 2000 rounds both hot and mild in 284win tactical rifles so far in temperature span of 12-25°C(that what we have loged) it seems to have cca 3.5fps/°C speed variation.
Great accuracy and low SD and good speed and so far not to much wear and tear on the barrel but that is probably due to tactical comps low rate of fire actually . 284win barrel has after 1000rnds no more wear and tear( i would swear its acualy less) then my other F classer in 6.5x47 which is kinda suprising. But the temp sesitivity is someting we have to take in consideration as shooting at unknown distance targets is a whole different ballgame , in F class temp sensitivity it doesn't really matter that much
Great accuracy and low SD and good speed and so far not to much wear and tear on the barrel but that is probably due to tactical comps low rate of fire actually . 284win barrel has after 1000rnds no more wear and tear( i would swear its acualy less) then my other F classer in 6.5x47 which is kinda suprising. But the temp sesitivity is someting we have to take in consideration as shooting at unknown distance targets is a whole different ballgame , in F class temp sensitivity it doesn't really matter that much
I have had very good velocity and accuracy from Re17 but at the expense of losing barrels faster. Tried it in a .243/115s and 107s and burnt that one at 950 rounds. Thinking that was normal for that cartridge I tried it again in my Palma rifle w/ 185s and started seeing fire cracking after about 200 rounds. Went back to Varget and 155s but now that I am at 2000 rounds the throat is so rough compared to my back-up rifle (same barrel mfg., always Varget only) that I am afraid it is about finished as well. Have heard similar stories from other experienced shooters. In short, it works BUT...
I have been shooting the RL17 in a 6XC 1-8 twist for about a year I don't know the actual round count I good guess would be around 1,000 I have had good results with it and really in my testing I have had great temperature stability from it around 30 deg F to around 85 deg F at the hottest I chrony'ed it.. But here lately or just recently I have no proof or scientific findings or bore scoped just a gut feeling a shooters feeling that the powder is a little hard on the barrel.it has not been shooting as well as usual and a little hard to clean..hum..my gut tells me barrel is rough in the throat. I don't have a bore scope and my bore scope buddy has passed on.
FJIM
How did you get to a conclusion that RL17 is temperature stable ,if you don't systematicaly run a log book
We run a logs on 2 identical rifles (barrels were clocked at only cca 4fps difference on the same load at 15°C prior to last match) ,same barrels ,reamer, action ,smith and stock and every single load and shoot is logged + we do targeted chrono measurements at different temperatures due to competing in different climates (from Skandinavia to Mediteranean) and so far there is evidence of considerable temperature sensitivity with RS60 (RL17)in our guns.
How did you get to a conclusion that RL17 is temperature stable ,if you don't systematicaly run a log book
We run a logs on 2 identical rifles (barrels were clocked at only cca 4fps difference on the same load at 15°C prior to last match) ,same barrels ,reamer, action ,smith and stock and every single load and shoot is logged + we do targeted chrono measurements at different temperatures due to competing in different climates (from Skandinavia to Mediteranean) and so far there is evidence of considerable temperature sensitivity with RS60 (RL17)in our guns.
mincmac my testing was done using a shooting chrony two different ones actually. how I came to my conclusion..I always measure out to the chrony ten feet..i always shoot threw the center and over the sensors..I was shooting H4350 had very good results . I also tried RL17 had good results..BUT RL17 did produce 3,150 FPS where H4350 I could not get no more velocity than 3,025 with a naked 105 Hunting VLD .. now with RL17 I could push to 3,200 FPS before I got a sticky bolt..I could not push the H4350 at all. so settled on the RL17 load at 3,150 fps..now All this is recorded. wrote down..ect drop charts are made..Now we are field testing drop charts. I only went out to 700 yards..it all worked well. I had shot the H4350 load and the RL17 load, 200,300,400,500,600,700 and played some out to 900 yards. I was liking the H4350 load even though it was slower.now this is all around 75-85 deg F..well when the temperature droped down into the 40's deg F..I was back out chrony testing and the H4350 load droped off to 2,990 FPS and the RL17 did not. it was still going 3,150 FPS. I tested it down to 30 deg F and the H4350 load was down to 2,950 FPS but RL17 was still going 3,150 FPS..shot out to 700 yards drop data was still working..I also was shooting the RL17 in a 6.5 creedmoore for about three years with the same temperature stability ..I tested it down to -10 deg F and only lost 50 FPS from 80 deg F..I told a few friends what I had done so they shot their loads at 30 deg F or so and they where shocked how much velocity they lost..they then worked a load out with RL17 and they said wow you are right the RL17 does not drop off it stays right there. so we actually was out there at 30 deg F shooting to get the data. and even out there all set and shooting at -10 deg F..Just the other day I don't even know what the temp was I would say 80 deg F..I was shooting threw the chrony a few loads and I said let me shoot one of the RL17 loads threw just to see where it is..yep 3,149 FPS..it seems to run a 5-6 FPS SD and once in a while I get a 30FPS ES. say shoot 20 rounds and might get one light off around 30 FPS. SO that is how I came up with the idea RL17 is very temperature stable..? I been shocked to see people saying it is not..BUT I am thinking it maybe a little hard on barrels. maybe more so with a smaller bore. So I don't know. only what I know seems to work for me and even a few others.
As my rifle is a hunting rifle it is very important to me the temperature stability of the load. Most of our hunting is in cold weather I would say 10 deg F to 50 deg F would be a good temp swing for hunting season. I always test all my hunting loads at the actual temp im going to use them..always have. So far RL17 seems to be the best powder I have ever shot in cold temperature. But we shoot all year so it also important to know weather we can fire them loads in the summer time.
It does get up into the 90's in the summer. right now it is 81 deg F and humid feels like 90+..humidity 68% right now at 10:25pm..A/C is working overtime..Hey we test all year for that hunting season..were nuts..lol spent all year tuneing and testing,practising for that long shot and end up shooting our game at 175 yards. I know one guy spent a lot of money to go to a sniper school ect..and his kill shot was 80 yards...we laugh about that one a good bit. But we are capable if we need to.
It does get up into the 90's in the summer. right now it is 81 deg F and humid feels like 90+..humidity 68% right now at 10:25pm..A/C is working overtime..Hey we test all year for that hunting season..were nuts..lol spent all year tuneing and testing,practising for that long shot and end up shooting our game at 175 yards. I know one guy spent a lot of money to go to a sniper school ect..and his kill shot was 80 yards...we laugh about that one a good bit. But we are capable if we need to.
260AI
Silver $$ Contributor
MtTom said:this was just sent to me by a forum member yesterday:
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This is from berger bullets hope this helps,
If we can be of any additional help feel free to contact us.
Thanks for your interest and have a great day.
Walt Berger
Berger Bullets
Technical Adviser
6.5 x 47
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
120 Grain VIHT N550 38.0 2657 42.5 2964 99.3%
120 Grain WW 760 38.5 2655 43.0 2972 99.4%
120 Grain Ramshot Hunter 40.0 2672 44.4 2975 101.6%
120 Grain NORMA 204 39.0 2590 43.6 2918 104.6%
120 Grain IMR 4350 38.0 2673 42.0 2955 103.5%
120 Grain H414 38.0 2612 42.2 2902 95.6%
120 Grain VARGET 34.0 2617 38.0 2880 92.1%
120 Grain RE-15 35.0 2665 38.8 2923 94.6%
120 Grain AA 4350 38.5 2662 42.6 2960 103.8%
6.5x 47 Lapua
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
130 Grain VIHT N550 36.5 2575 40.6 2853 99.4%
130 Grain WW 760 37.0 2577 41.0 2856 99.4%
130 Grain Ramshot Hunter 38.0 2564 42.5 2871 101.9%
130 Grain NORMA 204 37.5 2517 41.7 2815 104.3%
130 Grain IMR 4350 36.0 2556 40.2 2850 103.8%
130 Grain H414 36.0 2497 40.2 2786 95.4%
130 Grain VARGET 32.5 2518 36.2 2759 92.0%
130 Grain RE -15 33.5 2570 37.0 2804 94.5%
130 Grain AA 4350 36.5 2549 40.6 2843 103.7%
130 Grain Hybrid 100V 36.0 2537 40.0 2798 107.5%
130 Grain RE 17 35.5 2580 39.6 2855 96.1%
130 Grain H4350 36.5 2562 40.6 2853 104.0%
6.5 X 47 Lapua
Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
140 Grain VIHT N550 36.5 2521 40.5 2776 97.5%
140 Grain WW 760 36.5 2492 40.9 2784 97.5%
140 Grain Ramshot Hunter 38.0 2513 42.3 2791 99.8%
140 Grain NORMA 204 37.5 2468 41.5 2738 102.1%
140 Grain IMR 4350 36.0 2504 39.9 2763 101.3%
140 Grain H414 36.0 2446 40.0 2709 93.4%
140 Grain VARGET 32.5 2456 36.0 2671 90.0%
140 Grain RE-15 33.0 2477 36.8 2719 92.5%
140 Grain AA 4350 36.0 2465 40.2 2749 101.0%
140 Grain RE 17 34.5 2478 38.7 2749 94.3%
140 Grain H4350 35.5 2465 39.8 2758 102.2%
MtTom,
Do you have a date when that PM was sent by Walt Berger? I just checked the current Berger manual, and the loads posted from the PM run a little hotter than what the manual lists.
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