Hi all. I have been reloading about 6-7 years and have enjoyed years of problem free hand loads. However, I have purchased a Redding Type-S Bushing die set # 78446 and have never used one of these before. So, I have some questions regarding setting it up because I am seeing many different internet theories about these out there that don't add up.
My questions are specifically for people with extensive experience reloading using the Type-S bushing dies. Thanks.
The documentation for the body die says "The Body die is designed to full length resize the case body only and bump the shoulder position for proper chambering without disturbing the case neck."
Well it does. I am obviously able to run a bullet through the neck of a fired case, yet a bullet will not go in the neck after the case has been through the body die.
1.) Is there a problem here or is it just a minimal amount of squeezing of the neck? Will the neck still be able to be precisely sized by the bushing die?
I cannot seem to get the neck bushing die, marked as B/NK on the die (body/neck?).......to bump the shoulder. The documentation says it will not. "The shoulder position in the die corresponds with standard chamber specifications and will not bump the shoulder of your brass under normal circumstances."
That jives with what I found. The problem is.....all over the web I find people saying the neck bushing die will decap, FL size your brass and set the neck tension all in one as well as expand the neck if you choose to use the expander. I take FL size to mean sizing the case body and bumping the shoulder.
2.) What is it? What processes can I expect from the neck bushing die-will it bump the shoulder by .001" without camming over so hard?
Running a lubed case through the neck sizing die is smooth and requires little pressure. Running a lubed case through the body die requires a considerable amount of pressure. I did not measure a case out of the neck die but out of the body die it definitely reduces the diameter of the case at the web and definitely bumps the shoulder. It squeezes the brass so much more that the body/neck die.
3.) Why doesn't the neck die, which is supposedly a FL sizing die, size the body of the case as much as the body die? Is it just minimal FL sizing to get fired brass down a tickle in overall dimension?
4.) How then do I bump the shoulder without hitting the case body as hard as the body die is?
My head is spinning from overthinking this. The neck die is beautiful as far as neck tension yet it won't bump the shoulder and only minimally sizes the body. The body die sizes the body big time and bumps the shoulder, but it also squeezes the neck which it is not supposed to. What is the point of the bushing neck die being so precisely targeted to the case neck when the body die is sizing it down as well? I would have thought the body die internal dimensions at the neck, would have an I.D. that would be large enough it did not touch the neck at all.
Thanks in advance.
My questions are specifically for people with extensive experience reloading using the Type-S bushing dies. Thanks.
The documentation for the body die says "The Body die is designed to full length resize the case body only and bump the shoulder position for proper chambering without disturbing the case neck."
Well it does. I am obviously able to run a bullet through the neck of a fired case, yet a bullet will not go in the neck after the case has been through the body die.
1.) Is there a problem here or is it just a minimal amount of squeezing of the neck? Will the neck still be able to be precisely sized by the bushing die?
I cannot seem to get the neck bushing die, marked as B/NK on the die (body/neck?).......to bump the shoulder. The documentation says it will not. "The shoulder position in the die corresponds with standard chamber specifications and will not bump the shoulder of your brass under normal circumstances."
That jives with what I found. The problem is.....all over the web I find people saying the neck bushing die will decap, FL size your brass and set the neck tension all in one as well as expand the neck if you choose to use the expander. I take FL size to mean sizing the case body and bumping the shoulder.
2.) What is it? What processes can I expect from the neck bushing die-will it bump the shoulder by .001" without camming over so hard?
Running a lubed case through the neck sizing die is smooth and requires little pressure. Running a lubed case through the body die requires a considerable amount of pressure. I did not measure a case out of the neck die but out of the body die it definitely reduces the diameter of the case at the web and definitely bumps the shoulder. It squeezes the brass so much more that the body/neck die.
3.) Why doesn't the neck die, which is supposedly a FL sizing die, size the body of the case as much as the body die? Is it just minimal FL sizing to get fired brass down a tickle in overall dimension?
4.) How then do I bump the shoulder without hitting the case body as hard as the body die is?
My head is spinning from overthinking this. The neck die is beautiful as far as neck tension yet it won't bump the shoulder and only minimally sizes the body. The body die sizes the body big time and bumps the shoulder, but it also squeezes the neck which it is not supposed to. What is the point of the bushing neck die being so precisely targeted to the case neck when the body die is sizing it down as well? I would have thought the body die internal dimensions at the neck, would have an I.D. that would be large enough it did not touch the neck at all.
Thanks in advance.
...I bought the wrong set. Thanks all for that. Moving forward, I have ordered two FL bushing dies only from Brownell's. The 77446 one for 6.5 Creedmoor and one for .308 Win plus bushings for it. The bad thing is when I go to these online stores I see other stuff I have to have......so I ordered a Midwest Industries side sight mount for my AK 47. Gonna put a red dot on there.
