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Recommendations For Electronic Headset System

JBO

My shooting partner and I have been kicking this around for awhile. We would like to purchase a electronic headset system for communicating during practice and also to use in team events.
Looking for a recommendations for a hardwire headset system. Want 3 headsets now with the capability of adding additional headsets to the system in the future. Some of the accessories we would want are, ambidextrous noise-canceling boom mic and high NRR rating.
Do you know of a proven system shooters are using now that works really well ?
Thanks for your input .
 
We used systems from motorola kenwood and yuasa in power plants. You could talk to somebody standing next to a steam turbine. Very very expensive for noise canceling. You could always use ear buds under your ear muffs with your phones to get out with no money
 
JBO said:
You think 24 to 26 NRR will be a big issue
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It is when sustained gun fire is taking place. When I enter the turbine building, or emergency diesel generator building while they are running at nuke plants, I am required to wear double hearing protection. When a normal conversation can't take place between two people at a distance of three feet, it's too loud in that area. Don't take chances with your hearing.
 
My advice is to use Electronic blast protectors such as the Etymotic Research GSP-15. These are among the least expensive in-ear hearing protection and are of excellent quality. They are rated at only 25 NRR but that only reflects the possibility of inserting them wrong. If you carefully try all the tips supplied and pick the best performing ones, you can get 38 dB attenuation.
The real advantage is that the gain of these devices is unity (or 15db with switch in the gain position, and at normal listening levels with no one near shooting, you hear normally. As the ambient sound pressure level goes up, the gain drops till at above 117dB sound pressure level, the amplifier saturates and cannot transfer any sound above 117 dB to the ear drum. With gun shots at 160-170 dB SPL, that is as good as the mastoid bone allows.
For those that think I'm full of what-ever, good electronic muffs can do the same job as the GSP-15 due to their amplifier in the muff. Only problem, the 26 dB NRR most popular muffs are rated at CANNOT be improved with more careful fitting. What you can do is wear Etymotic ETY-plugs under the muffs. These plugs are very economical on ebay and other sources and afford tru hi-fidelity attenuation of 20 dB (yellow foamies have more attenuation but lousy fidelity!). Coupled with electronic muffs with 15 or so dB gain, the Ety-Plug reduces the noise to 26 +20 to right at about 40 dB which is limited by your mastoid bone.
I think to find muffs that can communicate would be next to impossible.
 
Quote from normatzen:
......"For those that think I'm full of what-ever,......"

I think you are full of sound, reliable, and good advice based on your experience and occupation.
I have read your responses to many posts over the years and have benefited from your knowledge. They are well written and clear.
That being said 'thank you' to you for your time in answering.
 
dickn52 said:
Do you have a price point? A lot of the SWAT teams wear these, but they weren't stand alone I'm recalling.
This might be what you're looking for. BUT this stuff is really expensive. http://www.flightcom.net/military/military-wireless/flm-whm202520m/
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Thanks for you recommendation, Price point? I thought I had a price point when I started my first custom build, that ended up being a foolish thought.
I've learned allot since then, so I guess I'll start out with a " NO " to that question.:D
 
normmatzen said:
My advice is to use Electronic blast protectors such as the Etymotic Research GSP-15. These are among the least expensive in-ear hearing protection and are of excellent quality. They are rated at only 25 NRR but that only reflects the possibility of inserting them wrong. If you carefully try all the tips supplied and pick the best performing ones, you can get 38 dB attenuation.
The real advantage is that the gain of these devices is unity (or 15db with switch in the gain position, and at normal listening levels with no one near shooting, you hear normally. As the ambient sound pressure level goes up, the gain drops till at above 117dB sound pressure level, the amplifier saturates and cannot transfer any sound above 117 dB to the ear drum. With gun shots at 160-170 dB SPL, that is as good as the mastoid bone allows.
For those that think I'm full of what-ever, good electronic muffs can do the same job as the GSP-15 due to their amplifier in the muff. Only problem, the 26 dB NRR most popular muffs are rated at CANNOT be improved with more careful fitting. What you can do is wear Etymotic ETY-plugs under the muffs. These plugs are very economical on ebay and other sources and afford tru hi-fidelity attenuation of 20 dB (yellow foamies have more attenuation but lousy fidelity!). Coupled with electronic muffs with 15 or so dB gain, the Ety-Plug reduces the noise to 26 +20 to right at about 40 dB which is limited by your mastoid bone.
I think to find muffs that can communicate would be next to impossible.
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Tell you what i did....
Ordered two howard leight ear muffs (non electronic)
Ordered one set of wireless motorcycle communication units...fitted one each to each headphone...paired them and off to the races..I had to put a little foam over the speakers to cut down the volume because the recievers do not have sound limiters on them. Some foam earplugs worn with this works fine. Has a range of at least 100 yards and depending on the model you choose you can have as many as 6-8 headsets going all together.
Glenn
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JBO said:
My shooting partner and I have been kicking this around for awhile. We would like to purchase a electronic headset system for communicating during practice and also to use in team events.
Looking for a recommendations for a hardwire headset system. Want 3 headsets now with the capability of adding additional headsets to the system in the future. Some of the accessories we would want are, ambidextrous noise-canceling boom mic and high NRR rating.
Do you know of a proven system shooters are using now that works really well ?
Thanks for your input .
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PM Scott Harris, he bought a set that several headsets. The voice is triggered by buttons. Think setup cost around 1000 bucks
 
Hi JBO, Thanks John that just may be the ticket. Do they have voice activated mic's?

Yes, WHISPER activated... Wires are kind of messy in a team relay. BUT WIRELESS NOT LEGAL AT NRA TEAM MATCHES. Thanks, John
 
I would be VERY careful with this system;

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/485968-REG/Eartec_Four_Person_Wired_Intercom_System.html

This system is designed for "low to mid level noise environments" and do not seem to be NRR rated. Most likely as they are not designed for hearing protection but for communications.

My advice still stands, use a variable gain amplifier such as in the Etymotic GSP-15 or some of the muffs with built in variable gain amplifiers worn over ER-20 ETY-PLUGS. You will be surprised how well you can converse with your fellow shooters.
 
If you don't take care of your hearing, the outcome is clear….
 

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