Recommend a Smith for barrel threading challenge

[deadeye_ruck]

I just bought a couple of new cans and am looking to get 3 different barrels threaded to maximize my usage of them.

The first is a Hart 26" HV contour that lives on my 6BR VARMINT. It needs to be 5/8x24

The 2nd is a savage rascal barrel. It's tiny at the muzzle so I'm sure it'll have to have some adapter made. I need it threaded 1/2X28.

The 3rd is a 24" bbl that lives on an. 223 AR varmint rig. I need it threaded to 5/8x24

I want it done right and I want someone that does high quality work and is reputable. I knew yall would be the ones to ask.

Thanks!

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

Threading Central (dakota silencer) has done the last 3 for me. I'm sure they will have an idea for the rascal. They have been fast,less than a week, and easy to communicate with.

 

[carlsbad]

Common threads but find someone who sets it up correctly.

 

[natdscott]

Call first, but I’d send the cores/can AND the barrels to Pierce Engineering. They are a Form 4 manufacturer as well, so they can accept cans, and set up threads/shoulders for “custom” minimum clearance to match your actual cans.

But at the end of the day, if the threads are concentric to the bore, and the shoulder is square, they’ll line up.

 

[Judd]

Truth is, if a smith can’t do a simple job like threading a barrel for a can...then they aren’t really a gunsmith

Ask around, we’ve got a local guy who does a TON of muzzle threading for $50 a barrel and I’ve never heard a single complaint on him...today’s day in age, that’s not easy to accomplish. He’s got a CNC setup and turns them pretty quick. Most smiths won’t set one up and thread it for $100 more less $50.

Good luck!

 

[carlsbad]

Truth is, if a smith can’t do a simple job like threading a barrel for a can...then they aren’t really a gunsmith

Ask around, we’ve got a local guy who does a TON of muzzle threading for $50 a barrel and I’ve never heard a single complaint on him...today’s day in age, that’s not easy to accomplish. He’s got a CNC setup and turns them pretty quick. Most smiths won’t set one up and thread it for $100 more less $50.

Good luck!

A lot of guys don't take the time to set the barrel up perfectly concentric. Need to set it up almost like a chamber job to get it right. And a lot of customers don't know the difference. Wonder why accuracy is poor.--Jerry

 

[Dusty Stevens]

^ thats exactly right. The $50 guy’s customers never know, but to do it right its a chamber setup and not a lot will do that (that knows how to do it) for $50

 

[kendog]

A lot of guys don't take the time to set the barrel up perfectly concentric. Need to set it up exactly like a chamber job to get it right. And a lot of customers don't know the difference. Wonder why accuracy is poor.--Jerry

Fixed it for you.

 

[carlsbad]

Fixed it for you.

I agree.

 

[deadeye_ruck]

Thanks guys- I want it done right. Any other recommendations are welcome!

 

[MatthewsCarbineCo]

Truth is, if a smith can’t do a simple job like threading a barrel for a can...then they aren’t really a gunsmith

Ask around, we’ve got a local guy who does a TON of muzzle threading for $50 a barrel and I’ve never heard a single complaint on him...today’s day in age, that’s not easy to accomplish. He’s got a CNC setup and turns them pretty quick. Most smiths won’t set one up and thread it for $100 more less $50.

Good luck!

Many people believe if a CNC makes it it has to be perfect.. Right???
Just because the actual machining process only takes less than 1-1/2 minutes (with a couple of tool changes)..
If the guy is not spending the time to indicate off the bore and not the O.D. until a baffle strike happens most people will never be the wiser as most consumer commodity muzzle brakes ans things designed for consumer installations have clearances designed into them to keep consumers safe from bullet strikes...

If someone has spent the extended time and money buying a can and then cheaps out sending to lowest priced guy with a CNC machine. They deserve what they get..

Send the barrels to a real gunsmith that knows how to setup for cans and who makes superior chambers and pay for their time and expertise..

 

[markT]

I’m sending mine to threading central in SD. He said they center off the bore.
I just ordered the $39 shipping case and box. They have a gunsmith on site and have a $50k haas CNC.

 

[carlsbad]

CNC means production mindset. I don't have CNC. It takes me longer to set up a barrel than to thread the muzzle. So getting CNC wouldn't speed me up much since I do single item runs. CNC thrives when you are making endless widgets and you can put them in the chuck one after another the same way. I'm on a facebook machining group where CNC operators are complaining they get paid $13 an hour. CNC is all about making machining a non-skilled job. They struggle with getting things set up correctly. So if a gunsmith is using CNC, I'm concerned about setup. Just to be clear, there are good gunsmiths out there using CNC. But there are gun plumbers too.

 

[datp]

Give Curtis tactical suppressors and rifles a look.
https://curtistacticalsuppressorsandrifles.com
Quality work and a hell of a nice guy to do business with. He has threaded and braked four bolt rifles for me. Zero complaints.

 

[KY_Windage]

How do these experts decide how long the threaded nipple should be, that is, the distance from the crown to the shoulder?

 

[shortgrass]

CNC means production mindset. I don't have CNC. It takes me longer to set up a barrel than to thread the muzzle. So getting CNC wouldn't speed me up much since I do single item runs. CNC thrives when you are making endless widgets and you can put them in the chuck one after another the same way. I'm on a facebook machining group where CNC operators are complaining they get paid $13 an hour. CNC is all about making machining a non-skilled job. They struggle with getting things set up correctly. So if a gunsmith is using CNC, I'm concerned about setup. Just to be clear, there are good gunsmiths out there using CNC. But there are gun plumbers too.

Being a machinist doesn't make one a gunsmith, just as being a gunsmith doesn't make you a machinist.... As in many other life situations, there are exceptions.

 

[boltfluter]

Generally speaking, a CNC operator is just that, a person that loads parts and pushes a "go" button. They do not do set ups or any programming or editing of programs. In my experience they lack the drive to advance or are not interested enough to advance to the next level. Not meant as demeaning as becoming a machinist is not for everyone. But, the more skilled you are, the more $$ you make.

Paul

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

I was incorrect when I said dakota threading has done my last 3, it is actually 4. 3 TC Dimension barrels and 1 TC Icon rifle. The Icon suppressed is going elk hunting this month. The 22-250 barrel was the barrel on the dimension action and the scope sighted in before removing the barrel and shipping to Dakota threading. When the barrel was returned to me I reinstalled it, put the suppressor on and went to the range. Only a total of 3 clicks to reestablish +1.0 zero at 100 yards(1 left,2 up). The 3 dimension barrels all go on short pd shoots and are very accurate with hand loads, 204,223,22-250, all still shoot the same after threading.