I'm in the market for a new prone stock for a short rem700. I have McGee's and Robertson's H&H. I'd like to try a new vendor. Anybody have a favorite?
Prone stock shopping
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Check out a Bell & Carlson A-5 at www.shootersdiscount.com
I use them on my F-Class Rifles.
I use them on my F-Class Rifles.
I'm curious why no one has offered up McMillan as a contender. I'm just getting into the Palma game, and am in the process of speccing my rifle parts, and was told by a High Master and State Champ that McMillam was the best, no holds barred.
How DO these other brands compare to McMillan?
Given the 90+ days wait for a McMillan, if there is a better/faster option out there, I'm willing to look at it.
As far as the rest of my rifle, I have a Rem 700 SA with a .308 bolt. I'm getting the bolt face trued by Whidden,I hear he knows a thing or two about this gun stuff ...), I'll get a Krieger 6mm medium Palma contour blank that will finish to 30" and get Whidden to finish an d chamber it, CG Jackson 2-stage trigger, Centra rear sight and the Centra 30mm Goliath front sight. Of course, I make the ShootingSight UltraBlack sun shades and diopter lenses, so I'll be using my own stuff there
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I'm going to use a V-block bedding system, and was looking at an Anschutz style McMillan stock, though here I was hoping to find a used stock, just to avoid the long wait for a new one.
Any recco or input on the stock issue would be appreciated,limit it to stock, just so I don't hijack this thread).
Thanks,
Art
How DO these other brands compare to McMillan?
Given the 90+ days wait for a McMillan, if there is a better/faster option out there, I'm willing to look at it.
As far as the rest of my rifle, I have a Rem 700 SA with a .308 bolt. I'm getting the bolt face trued by Whidden,I hear he knows a thing or two about this gun stuff ...), I'll get a Krieger 6mm medium Palma contour blank that will finish to 30" and get Whidden to finish an d chamber it, CG Jackson 2-stage trigger, Centra rear sight and the Centra 30mm Goliath front sight. Of course, I make the ShootingSight UltraBlack sun shades and diopter lenses, so I'll be using my own stuff there
.I'm going to use a V-block bedding system, and was looking at an Anschutz style McMillan stock, though here I was hoping to find a used stock, just to avoid the long wait for a new one.
Any recco or input on the stock issue would be appreciated,limit it to stock, just so I don't hijack this thread).
Thanks,
Art
memilanuk
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My 40X Palma rifle came to me with a McMillan Prone stock on it. Nice stock, but too dang skinny through the grip for my tastes. Granted, a big wad of Bondo would have fixed that, but it would have been a bear to blend in with the blue/white marbled gel coat... 
The McGee stock started out a little over sized, even for me, and some time w/ the 'smith resulted in it being cut away just enough in the right spots to fit *me*. Maybe not you, maybe not the next guy, but it fits me just right.
You don't get that too often with fiberglass stocks. You get what you get, a generic model made to fit a variety of folks 'pretty close'. Granted, the more successful models do that with a good deal of success. The aluminum stocks allow adjustment in directions that wood or fiberglass stocks normally cannot, or ranges that would be impractical on a more traditional stock. Whether or not thats necessary depends on the individual. Being as I deviate from the standard norm in terms of size and shape, adjustment and fit are items of some concern to me.
YMMV,
Monte
The McGee stock started out a little over sized, even for me, and some time w/ the 'smith resulted in it being cut away just enough in the right spots to fit *me*. Maybe not you, maybe not the next guy, but it fits me just right.
You don't get that too often with fiberglass stocks. You get what you get, a generic model made to fit a variety of folks 'pretty close'. Granted, the more successful models do that with a good deal of success. The aluminum stocks allow adjustment in directions that wood or fiberglass stocks normally cannot, or ranges that would be impractical on a more traditional stock. Whether or not thats necessary depends on the individual. Being as I deviate from the standard norm in terms of size and shape, adjustment and fit are items of some concern to me.
YMMV,
Monte
Art, the silence you're seeing on McM stocks for prone is telling. I decided to give them a try this year. It took 6 months for them to deliver a stock that was quite different from what I ordered,color, design, accessories). It sits gathering dust and will forever, it's just not worth throwing good money after bad. Outdated design, unable to read an order form, poor finish level, ridiculous delivery time.
Like Mike said, look at Gary Eliseo's tubeguns on www.competitionshootingstuff.com and the MAK tubeguns on www.tubegun.net you'll end up with a very nice rifle in a lot less time than most of the conventional stock makers can supply. I have a MAK in 6BR which is very good and I'm just finishing an Eliseo RT10 in 30-06 that I'll post an article about in a few weeks, I can say that the quality of every component of the Eliseo is first class; Gary is a machinist's machinist if you know what I mean. He also delivered sooner than promised,which was a short time anyway). I'm very excited about this project.
You might also enjoy this article: http://www.precisionshooting.com/psm_2007_12_frame.html
Having Whidden for your gunsmith is an ace in the hole, whatever you end up with will be a real tackdriver!
Like Mike said, look at Gary Eliseo's tubeguns on www.competitionshootingstuff.com and the MAK tubeguns on www.tubegun.net you'll end up with a very nice rifle in a lot less time than most of the conventional stock makers can supply. I have a MAK in 6BR which is very good and I'm just finishing an Eliseo RT10 in 30-06 that I'll post an article about in a few weeks, I can say that the quality of every component of the Eliseo is first class; Gary is a machinist's machinist if you know what I mean. He also delivered sooner than promised,which was a short time anyway). I'm very excited about this project.
You might also enjoy this article: http://www.precisionshooting.com/psm_2007_12_frame.html
Having Whidden for your gunsmith is an ace in the hole, whatever you end up with will be a real tackdriver!
German,
Thanks for the leads, I'll follow up on them. McM is not only 90 days out, I placed the order, and they are 5-6 months out. That's' even longer than my Krieger barrel, which is 16 weeks!
I don't suppose you want to sell the McM stock you have - or is that the left handed model you mentioned a while back? I'm after a prone stock,the Anschutz copy) for a right hand short Rem 700 action.
Thanks, and Merry Christmas,
Art
Thanks for the leads, I'll follow up on them. McM is not only 90 days out, I placed the order, and they are 5-6 months out. That's' even longer than my Krieger barrel, which is 16 weeks!
I don't suppose you want to sell the McM stock you have - or is that the left handed model you mentioned a while back? I'm after a prone stock,the Anschutz copy) for a right hand short Rem 700 action.
Thanks, and Merry Christmas,
Art
German,
Thanks again. I got on Bruno's web site, and sure enough, they had a Krieger palma 6mm 33" blank in stock, which I ordered.
I also decided to take your advice, and will get a tube gun stock. I can shoot it for a few months and decide if it works for me, then either re-sell it to move to the McMillan, or cancel the McM order. This way, I'll be shooting by the time the season starts,that is, the Ohio season - you Arizonites might start a little sooner).
Merry Chritmas,
Art
Thanks again. I got on Bruno's web site, and sure enough, they had a Krieger palma 6mm 33" blank in stock, which I ordered.
I also decided to take your advice, and will get a tube gun stock. I can shoot it for a few months and decide if it works for me, then either re-sell it to move to the McMillan, or cancel the McM order. This way, I'll be shooting by the time the season starts,that is, the Ohio season - you Arizonites might start a little sooner).
Merry Chritmas,
Art
Art:
The odd's of needing the McMillan are very low. Stocks are personal, A high master here shoots them and loaned me a Palma rifle to try. The experience converted me to bolt guns and sent me straight to Masterclass stocks.
The MAK gun epoxies the action in so they are one. The Eliseo uses a recoil disk in lieu of a lug and bolts through the sleeve to the action bolt holes. I feel a good deal of rigidity comes from just having the action in a tight fitting sleeve even w/out the epoxy. He also has single shot or repeater bottom metals. The CG trigger is the perfect choice as it pivots in from the bottom and the pins can be left in the action. If you have the recoil disc sent to you ahead of the stock, You can have the barrel work done at the same time as the stock is being done.
Mike
The odd's of needing the McMillan are very low. Stocks are personal, A high master here shoots them and loaned me a Palma rifle to try. The experience converted me to bolt guns and sent me straight to Masterclass stocks.
The MAK gun epoxies the action in so they are one. The Eliseo uses a recoil disk in lieu of a lug and bolts through the sleeve to the action bolt holes. I feel a good deal of rigidity comes from just having the action in a tight fitting sleeve even w/out the epoxy. He also has single shot or repeater bottom metals. The CG trigger is the perfect choice as it pivots in from the bottom and the pins can be left in the action. If you have the recoil disc sent to you ahead of the stock, You can have the barrel work done at the same time as the stock is being done.
Mike
You might look into Stockade's version of the A-5.Kevin builds a pretty nice stock.I have one with adj butt and cheek and assy rail...love it prone and bench....I'm the weakest link to little groups...but still working at it.
If your wanting to shoot palma why are you getting a 6mm blank??
Look into ross precision, I have one of Mike's stocks on my 1000 yard prone, and I love it.
You can adjust it for everything, short of what time it is...
You can adjust it for everything, short of what time it is...
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