Okay. If I can find a place to hunt mule deer or antelope for a reasonable price by Nov. I think I'm going to do that instead. I'm not a big fan of brush hunting. I'm still going to go if I can't by then. All that wasted potential is driving me nuts to be honest. You guys know of any state you don't have to draw a tag and there is descent potential. I life in Eastern Ohio. I can drive a ways but don't want the vacation to spread out forever.Maybe leave from work on a friday night/saturday morning. drive there. stay two or three days drive back recover then go back to work???????