NP-2DD Reticle in F class

[Bobr]

How are folks with the NP-2DD reticle using the lower dot. My transition from 600 yards to 1000 is an additional 12.5 moa and according to the Nightforce specs the difference between the lower and upper dot is 4.3 moa at 42X so using the upper for 600 and lower for 1000 does not seem to be an option. Am I missing something
Thanks Bob

 

[CZ550]

Use the knobs to dial elevation.

 

[deadlyswift]

IMO NF could take the bottom dot and get rid of it. For me all I need is the two tapering horizontal lines that naturally draw my eye to the center dot. I just dial my come ups on the turret and use the center dot regardless of the range. The vertical line and lower dot is just extra clutter in my field of view as far as I'm concern. The horizontal lines and center dot is all I need for Fclass.

 

[Immike]

Good question, I don't use the lower dot at all. The dd is supposed to work well at night but is great for round target such as Fclass, its open simplicity makes it quick,that's all I need! The lower is for judgment on the fly or any use you can put it to. Night force manual has it recommended as a hold over for varmint hunting.

 

[Taildrag15X]

How are folks with the NP-2DD reticle using the lower dot. My transition from 600 yards to 1000 is an additional 12.5 moa and according to the Nightforce specs the difference between the lower and upper dot is 4.3 moa at 42X so using the upper for 600 and lower for 1000 does not seem to be an option. Am I missing something
Thanks Bob

My book says it's 4 MOA @ 22 power....which is the Range Finding Setting.

 

[Mark Walker in TX]

There is another dot down there??

 

[effendude]

+1 On another dot?

We have a phrase I learned when I started shooting HP years ago... "God put knobs on those sights for a reason" Use your knobs!

Scott

 

[Taildrag15X]

I don't like to use angled bases, much perfer to have the optics centered and have/use built in hold over reticles....really like the NP-R2.

 

[Bobr]

Thanks Guys
Bob

 

[dannyjbiggs]

Bob...there is nothing wrong with your idea to use the NP-2DD "over and under dots" as you state! Try it, and if it works for you, fine. However, like the other responders to your question, I would not bother to use it; rather, just click up/down the elevation going from 600 to 1,000 yards.

There is one exception though where I regularly use the lower dot! That is for 1,200 yard shooting...a fad at the Midwest Palma Championships held annually up at Lodi, WI. Here I fully employ your idea. Following the 1,000 yard match, I click up 2-3 minutes of elevation depending on the load being used for my 7mm RSAUM, go to 42 power, and use the "lower" dot. For me, the lower (and smaller diameter dot) at 42 power provides a pref errable aiming dot for the much diminished size/appearance of the 1,000 yard target face (conditions permitting). In this instance, I'm really not too lazy to just "click up", I'm after "uncovering" the 10/X rings as much as possible as they are obscured by the larger upper dot, by using the smaller aiming dot, and to more better hold on on the rings horizontally for windage purposes.

Danny Biggs

 

[Steve Blair]

Bob...there is nothing wrong with your idea to use the NP-2DD "over and under dots" as you state! Try it, and if it works for you, fine. However, like the other responders to your question, I would not bother to use it; rather, just click up/down the elevation going from 600 to 1,000 yards.

There is one exception though where I regularly use the lower dot! That is for 1,200 yard shooting...a fad at the Midwest Palma Championships held annually up at Lodi, WI. Here I fully employ your idea. Following the 1,000 yard match, I click up 2-3 minutes of elevation depending on the load being used for my 7mm RSAUM, go to 42 power, and use the "lower" dot. For me, the lower (and smaller diameter dot) at 42 power provides a pref errable aiming dot for the much diminished size/appearance of the 1,000 yard target face (conditions permitting). In this instance, I'm really not too lazy to just "click up", I'm after "uncovering" the 10/X rings as much as possible as they are obscured by the larger upper dot, by using the smaller aiming dot, and to more better hold on on the rings horizontally for windage purposes.

Danny Biggs

[br]
What could this newbie Biggs guy know? He only has one post!

 

[DennisH]

IMO NF could take the bottom dot and get rid of it

I never use it, but it seems some find it usefull!

My book says it's 4 MOA @ 22 power....which is the Range Finding Setting.

Taildrag, at what yardage?

 

[Taildrag15X]

IMO NF could take the bottom dot and get rid of it

I never use it, but it seems some find it usefull!

My book says it's 4 MOA @ 22 power....which is the Range Finding Setting.

Taildrag, at what yardage?

I also did some searching as the NF web site doesn't offer the same info there any longer but found it here:

http://www.longrangesupply.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_35

If you scroll down to the NP-2DD this is the same as what my booklet states:

A secondary .125 M.O.A. diameter dot is located 4 M.O.A. below center at 22x. This dot is a 500-600 yard holdover point for most flat shooting cartridges. This simple and effective reticle performs in long-range situations while maintaining quick target acquisition capability for short distances.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

IMO NF could take the bottom dot and get rid of it

I never use it, but it seems some find it usefull!

My book says it's 4 MOA @ 22 power....which is the Range Finding Setting.

Taildrag, at what yardage?

Since MOA is an angular measurement unit, I should think yardage is irrelevant. In other words, it's 4 MOA regardless of distance.

 

[Taildrag15X]

Yup it's a measurement....and at 100 yards is measurable on a 1" grid Target fairly easy.....

But depending on what power setting the scope is on is where the problem comes in......my book says 4 MOA at 22 power, crank that up to 42 and what is it?

 

[Steve Blair]

At 42X, 4 MOA is 2.095 MOA. Because it is an angular measurement, the subtension is a straight division problem. [br]
22 / 42 * 4 = 2.095

 

[Immike]

2.095 x 1.048 x10 = 21.9556 " at 1000 yrds On 42 power.?

 

[Steve Blair]

Correct, within the rounding error.

 

[deadlyswift]

Bob...there is nothing wrong with your idea to use the NP-2DD "over and under dots" as you state! Try it, and if it works for you, fine. However, like the other responders to your question, I would not bother to use it; rather, just click up/down the elevation going from 600 to 1,000 yards.

There is one exception though where I regularly use the lower dot! That is for 1,200 yard shooting...a fad at the Midwest Palma Championships held annually up at Lodi, WI. Here I fully employ your idea. Following the 1,000 yard match, I click up 2-3 minutes of elevation depending on the load being used for my 7mm RSAUM, go to 42 power, and use the "lower" dot. For me, the lower (and smaller diameter dot) at 42 power provides a pref errable aiming dot for the much diminished size/appearance of the 1,000 yard target face (conditions permitting). In this instance, I'm really not too lazy to just "click up", I'm after "uncovering" the 10/X rings as much as possible as they are obscured by the larger upper dot, by using the smaller aiming dot, and to more better hold on on the rings horizontally for windage purposes.




Danny Biggs

[br]
What could this newbie Biggs guy know? He only has one post!

Steve yes what ever could this Biggs guy know? With only 1 post he is clearly Not a Internet High Master! ;D ;D ;D


For my first post! This is the part where I OPEN MOUTH and INSERT FOOT!! ;D ;D

 

[Steve Blair]

Steve yes what ever could this Biggs guy know? With only 1 post he is clearly Not a Internet High Master! ;D ;D ;D

[br]
Yes, when one achieves the zen enlightenment of Internet High Master, all things are possible. Groups of 2" at 1000 yards can be shot, ALL DAY LONG. Clean targets are possible at any arbitrary range, conditions be damned. Above all, firearms and shooting omniscience is a given. :