No turn 284 Win

[ARK]

What are Your thoughts on No turn 284? Pros and cons?

 

[Rset]

Do what makes you happy. The target won't care.

 

[std7mag]

I'll sell ya mine.

Note,
10lb hunting rifle, not a competition rifle.

 

[F Class John]

Ain't nothing wrong with a no-turn just as much as there's nothing wrong with turning a 284. Both work for top shooters out there but you need to figure out what you're ok with. Some people feel they do better one way or the other and also have different thresholds for time spent prepping and such. Test out your next batch of virgin brass without turning and then if you aren't happy with it, turn it and see how it goes. Only real thing to consider if you're going no-turn is if you have enough neck clearance. I run a .320 chamber and have about .007" total clearance on my custom 6.5/7prc and had about .004 on my .284.

Me personally, I haven't turned brass for years and don't miss it but that's me. YMMV and that's cool too.

 

[FeMan]

I am using the new Lapua brass with a 0.320 neck. I have several reamers and tried the neck turning. It took a lot of time and care and I didn't see any benefits from it. I am no turn with no regrets.

 

[ARK]

Thank you for your input. While ago I have ordered no-turn 284 reamer and now I am getting ready to get new barrel. Last time I visited Grizzlies I left one in the shopping basket, it was $350. For some reason I did not complete purchase. Today similar barrel is over $600 with tax and shipping... Price of steel must be going up!

 

[ljmontano]

Shop around

 

[ARK]

Shop around

Suggestions?

 

[ARK]

Ain't nothing wrong with a no-turn just as much as there's nothing wrong with turning a 284. Both work for top shooters out there but you need to figure out what you're ok with. Some people feel they do better one way or the other and also have different thresholds for time spent prepping and such. Test out your next batch of virgin brass without turning and then if you aren't happy with it, turn it and see how it goes. Only real thing to consider if you're going no-turn is if you have enough neck clearance. I run a .320 chamber and have about .007" total clearance on my custom 6.5/7prc and had about .004 on my .284.

Me personally, I haven't turned brass for years and don't miss it but that's me. YMMV and that's cool too.

I thought the reason for my poor accuracy is doughnuts forming in neck turned brass. I was hoping that NNT brass will have less tendency to form doughnuts.

 

[F Class John]

I thought the reason for my poor accuracy is doughnuts forming in neck turned brass. I was hoping that NNT brass will have less tendency to form doughnuts.

Sort of, if you push them out with a mandrel and then turn them off it helps. I just make sure I seat above the donut and it's all good.

 

[ARK]

Sort of, if you push them out with a mandrel and then turn them off it helps. I just make sure I seat above the donut and it's all good.

Do you mean turning neck after several firings? I tried inside neck reamer and end up with bunch of neck-less brass LOL

 

[F Class John]

Do you mean turning neck after several firings? I tried inside neck reamer and end up with bunch of neck-less brass LOL

Yes, or use an IDOD which turns inside and out at same time.

 

[Sandstorm]

will have less tendency to form doughnuts.

Your going to get donuts but just seat your bullets long and you dont have a problem,
as mentioned by F-class John.
Thats how most do it and its just fine.

 

[Liven The Dream]

Two different .284 F/Class Rifles to different Reamers one for necked up 6.5X284 Lapua and one straight .284 Brass . NO neck turning.
Yes Donuts . The brass you use needs the right reamer .

 

[yukonal]

What are Your thoughts on No turn 284? Pros and cons?

I own a no turn reamer...284...and have loaded no turn. Then cleaned them up 50%. Also turned a couple hundred. They all shoot great.

The next 200 I fireform, I'm going back to a 50% cleanup, and call it good. Just to clean up the high spots. 284 likes a little room on the sides of the neck.

 

[ARK]

I own a no turn reamer...284...and have loaded no turn. Then cleaned them up 50%. Also turned a couple hundred. They all shoot great.

The next 200 I fireform, I'm going back to a 50% cleanup, and call it good. Just to clean up the high spots. 284 likes a little room on the sides of the neck.

When I ordered no-turn reamer Lapua 284 brass was available almost everywhere and I was tired of turning necks. Lapua brass is almost perfect in my opinion, i recently got my hands on some Winchester brass and I could not believe that company can sell such a crap. Not trying to be derogatory I was just shocked with all the dents, scratches and burrs! Working with quality components makes you forget how bad other stuff can be. Don't know how the other brass shoots but it looked awful. To be fair, Bergers under magnification don't look to good but shoot exceptionally well.

 

[X Count]

For those loading for accuracy and NOT turning brass what is your sizing process to get consistent neck tension?

 

[Sandstorm]

Bushing dies and then mandrel...size is your choice as everyone finds their optimum
that works for their process...their's no one right way here...and do some testing to confirm.
The target will tell you.

 

[LVLAaron]

Expander mandrel solves most of it.

 

[bulaman]

I run a 0.319" No turn reamer and use Lapua brass without issues for my Standard 284 Win. The 0.319" gives me 0.004" Total clearance.