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Nightforce may no longer be the top Dog! OF The Bunch.

FIRST LOOK: Sightron 8-32¡Á56 Scope
Filed under: News ¡ª Editor @ 4 pm
Just this week, Sightron sent us one of the new Sightron SIII 8-32¡Á56 LR D rifle scopes for evaluation. This new optic features a 30mm main tube and weighs 24.7 ounces. Clicks are set in 1/4-MOA increments. The reticle is a fine cross hair with 1/4-MOA dot. The scope comes with a 3¡å sunshade, turret covers, and rubber-connected, see-thru lens caps. Jason Baney had a chance to test the scope and give his initial impressions of its optical qualities. We will follow this ¡°First Look¡± report with more extensive testing of the scope¡¯s mechanical tracking and long-range resolution.



Overall, Jason was extremely impressed with the new scope. It was very bright, with excellent color rendition and contrast. The image remained bright and sharp out all the way out to the edges, with no shadowing or distortion. Compared to a Nightforce 12-42¡Á56 BR scope set at 32-power, Jason thought the Sightron had better contrast and more vivid colors. Jason concluded: ¡°At this point, the new Sightron seems like a good value, and compares well with the Nightforce BR model.¡±

Parallax and Focus
Importantly, the Sightron¡¯s parallax control worked perfectly. There was no lash issue and Jason was able to attain minimal parallax with the target at maximum sharpness. With some other scopes, if you set the scope to have the target in best focus, you¡¯ll still have too much parallax.



Elevation and Windage
This is a scope you can use to 1000 yards. Jason ran the adjustments top to bottom and recorded 75 MOA of both Elevation and Windage, based on the stated 1/4-MOA click Value. The target knobs have 15 MOA per turn and operate VERY smoothly and positively. Jason said the clicks ¡°feel similar to Nightforce NXS clicks, but just a little less positive.¡±

Resolution Tests
Jason used two resolution charts, the USAF 1951 Optical Chart, and a line-width/text size chart. To judge resolution, Jason did a comparison test of the new Sightron 8-32¡Á56 and a Nightforce 12-42¡Á56 BR, with both scopes set at 32x with their sunshade attached. Jason looked through both scopes at the resolution test targets at 100 yards, and then at target frames, grass, and flowers at 300 yards. Viewing was done late in the day, with some shadows on the range. Keep in mind these were less than ideal conditions for viewing.

The test charts have incrementally smaller focus lines and text. Both scopes were able to resolve down to the same line/text level on the two resolution charts. The new Sightron showed comparable, but VERY slightly less resolution than the NF. Both could identify the same size of text, but the NF saw it just a bit more crisply. Jason reports: ¡°I could go to the same resolution level with both scopes, but the last line was just a touch more crisp with the Nightforce. Still, the Sightron is very close in resolution.¡±

Contrast and Color Fidelity
The Sightron was the winner in this category. In fading light, the Sightron delivered better contrast. Green, yellow, red, and white colors showed more differentiation and all the colors were more vivid. Weathered target backer boards also showed more contrast through the Sightron. Jason checked this several times nearing dusk, and the Sightron always seemed more vivid and showed more contrast looking at a patch of grass and colored vegetation. In terms of color temp, the Nightforce has a more whitish tone, whereas the Sightron seemed ¡°warmer¡± with more vivid colors.

Brightness/Light Transmission
Along with its superior color and contrast, the Sightron seemed to be consistently brighter through the fading light. We note, however, that manufacturers¡¯ published light transmission factors are nearly identical for the Sightron 8-32 and the Nightforce 12-42. The greater brightness of the Sightron is Jason¡¯s subjective perception, but he said ¡°the Sightron definitely seemed brighter.¡±

View to Edge
With many zoom scopes, at high magnification, the center of the ¡°circle of light¡± is bright and sharp, but the edges are faded or shadowy. The brightness attenuates,fades out) on the edges. In addition, you sometimes see some image distortion or focus loss at the edges. The Sightron showed none of these issues. At SHOT show, this editor looked through a prototype 8-32 Sightron and it was bright and sharp all the way out to the edges. Jason observed the same thing: ¡°The Sightron was noticeably clear edge to edge, where the Nightforce showed some fading or darkening at the edges. This point was quite surprising to me.¡± Jason also noted that the Sightron had about a 3-4¡å wider field of view at 100 yards.



Fringe Effect with Highly Reflective Subjects
With the Sightron, when looking at extremely bright, reflective objects, such as a car¡¯s chrome trim, Jason did observe some minor fringing¨Cwhat he called a ¡°thin halo¡±. This also appeared around the edge of a white target paper viewed in bright light. Jason did not see different edging colors, so we don¡¯t think this was Chromatic Aberration*. It wasn¡¯t a major issue and it did not affect the sharpness or contrast of the viewed object itself. This was visible only on the periphery of very bright objects.

Conclusion¨CImpressive Optics for $825.00
We only were able to comparison-test one sample of each scope, Sightron vs. Nightforce. As noted, the performance was very close, and it is possible that different samples might perform slightly better or worse in each optical category. In this test the Nightforce had a very slight edge in resolution, while the Sightron was brighter. We plan to do more testing, with bullet-hole targets set at long ranges. That should give us a better sense of how the Sightron can resolve bullet holes and target lines out past 300 yards. Jason will also do a box-test to check the tracking and repeatability of the Sightron. Based on what we¡¯ve seen so far, however, the Sightron, with a ¡°street price¡± of about $825.00, is a very good value. Jason concludes: ¡°Given the 8-32 Sightron¡¯s price point, I¡¯d say most people will feel it is a great scope for the money.¡±
 
Donovan--

You raised some very good points. Right now a FCH target dot reticle is the ONLY option with the 8-32, and Jason said the 1/4-MOA dot "looks pretty big" at long ranges.

I can definitely see why a 600-yard BR shooter would want 1/8 MOA clicks. 1/4 MOA is 1.5 inches and some guys are shooting groups that small!

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I think the fairer comparison, price-wise, might be with a Leupold LRT 8-25. I own an 8-25 and I can tell you the images edges start to darken noticeably above 23X. My scope arrived with a canted reticle, and the parallax has a definite lash issue. With many of the LRTs if you put the target in Max focus your parallax will be off.

I see Sightron stealing a good deal of Leupold's 8-25 LRT market, IF the word gets out.
 
Donovan, Yea your right i was just saying thats its great to get another well not over priced high end scopes that is premium quality and look like sightron has done just that. Its so new that give it time and there will be different reticles. I like mine so much i have the second one on its way from lock stock and barrel.IT seems like everybody that i know are leupold fans and in their opinions leups are the coc? of the walk and you cant even say that i know of a better and clearer scope because they'll start a hissy fit. You know maybe 15 years ago leupold was the top dog, but not now. Technology has been able to surpass leupold and thats all there is to do with that,I still like leupolds that i have had but just cant seem to want to buy another as long as sightron, nightforce, bushnell 4200-6500's because of price, i just think there are way to many problems with the leupolds and they are way over priced. Just my opinion. So all you leupy fans dont post back and run me down only because i have opinions like everybody else on here.you get my drift.It's just good theres another breed of high powered quality scopes on the market with also the best WARRANTY in the business PERIOD.
 
Moderator,

Thats why i sold my leupold 8-25 to get the sightron because of the same problems you are mentioning, For a thousand dollars and so many people having the same problems you would think leupold would do something about it but thats alright sightron im sure dont mind picking up their extra business.
 
Moderator said:
Donovan--


I think the fairer comparison, price-wise, might be with a Leupold LRT 8-25. I own an 8-25 and I can tell you the images edges start to darken noticeably above 23X. My scope arrived with a canted reticle, and the parallax has a definite lash issue. With many of the LRTs if you put the target in Max focus your parallax will be off.

I see Sightron stealing a good deal of Leupold's 8-25 LRT market, IF the word gets out.

Precisely why my last Leupold purchase became my LAST Leupold purchase. My concerns fell upon deaf ears.

Thanks for the memories, Leupold.

Tom
 
I will always buy Nightforce NXS Scopes until I can afford the $3000.00 S&B Tactical Scopes. Was this test done with the NXS model too or was it just done with the BR models. Anyhow, Nightforce scopes are awesome. I will look for a used Nightforce NXS scope before I would buy a new Leupold.

VH
 
absolutely Varmithunter,
IT was done with just the BR Model but they will test the NXS in the future and so forth. I agree 100 percent on that, I lost way to much respect for leupolds,They must not care too much about quality control or they still wouldnt be having parallex, lash, canted reticle, and side focus problems like my leupy had.Plus the glass isn't the greatest either,There are many mid range scopes that compare with leupolds glass for half the money.
 
VH - I don't have an NXS anymore...got rid of it for a USO.

The NF BR models should theoretically have better glass performance and more consistent POI retention with the longer tube and front parallax adjust. The shorter tube, and side focus add complication to the mechanics,comparing a NF BR to NXS)

JB
 
jb1000br said:
VH - I don't have an NXS anymore...got rid of it for a USO.

The NF BR models should theoretically have better glass performance and more consistent POI retention with the longer tube and front parallax adjust. The shorter tube, and side focus add complication to the mechanics,comparing a NF BR to NXS)

JB

What he said!


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Sightron has finally Made THE scope for NRA ANY/ANY shooters.

Ive been waiting for this scope for some time.

Finally no stinking 1/8min clicks on a side focus 30mm target scope. 1/4 min elevation and windage just like my Iron sights, what a novel idea!!!

A dot?? something bigger than that little stinking 1/8 min dot that washes out on a dark target with the sun in your face. Yaaaaa hooooo


If it tracks like my Existing SII 24X variable they will be in great demand i would think.

RussT
 
Part II of Jason's report will cover tracking and mechanics. Part I was in our Daily Bulletin and was very positive. Very slight edge in resolution to Nightforce, but otherwise color, contrast, brightness favored the Sightron.

We're still investigating the "halo" Jason observed,with the Sightron) on some highly reflective objects. That one has even the experts puzzled.

From what we've seen so far, this scope beats the Leupold 8-25 in most every way. A Lot more usuable magnification.
 
Moderator said:
We're still investigating the "halo" Jason observed,with the Sightron) on some highly reflective objects. That one has even the experts puzzled.

This is a common artifact of condensation or dirty lenses.


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RussT, That's what I'm hoping - I ordered the last two SIII 8-32s that JSC had yesterday morning. The one I'll be keeping for myself will go on a new 1000yd. any/any rifle I'm building on a BAT 3LL in a Robertson H&H prone stock with two bbls.,both #14 hvy. Palma) - one a Krieger 9-tw. chambered for a straight 284Win., the 2nd a Bartlein 8.5-tw. chambered for 6.5x55 AI. I wanted to try one of the new Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30s, but couldn't find one. I put a 6500 2.5-16x42 on a 250 AI earlier this spring, and have been happy with it so far, but guess I'll have to wait to hear of someone else's experiences with the 4.5-30.

What's a 3LL you ask? It's a BAT 3L that's an inch longer than the original 3L - the one in the safe wears ser.# 01, and already has the 284 bbl. finished - the only thing we're waiting on is the stock. I'll get the 6.5 bbl. done as soon as I get a few other rifles out the door and on their way back to their owners. Ian & Kelly tell me the stock should ship late this week, so perhaps I'll have some feedback on the SIII before long.
 
Moderator said:
Part II of Jason's report will cover tracking and mechanics.

Par Duex??... ARE WE THERE YET??

And what about the ghost images??

BTT!


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I got a little irate when the SIIIs I'd ordered didn't show up this week, so called JSC to find out what the hold-up was. I was told that when they pulled the two 8x32s from stock, the boxes were found to be "crushed", so they didn't ship them. That's fine, but they didn't call to tell me that - I had to call them. I was seriously considering ordering a Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50 from Brunos yesterday when the JSC salesman I'd been dealing with called to get my CC# - the next shipment of Sightrons had arrived, so now,barring anymore crushed boxes), I can expect to finally get my hands on one of these scopes early next week. Still no stock for the 3LL though, so I may have to try the SIII out on one of my Dashers.
 
Guys

A little test if you will for me.

With either/both Sightron and the Bushnell, I would like to know how well the 30X/32X will pick up 6mm holes at 500m/600yds.

I am trying to buy myself a 20-50X50 Leupold Premier, but if I dont find one, well then I'll be looking for something else.

Maybe a Sightron, maybe a Bushnell...

Cheers
AI
 
I'll watch this thread. I just installed a Sightron because of $$ but my concern is how it will hold up long term vs. Nightforce. Thos NF's really handle the pounding.
 
Pleper, I own several NF scopes and other brands too. I think as far as dependability is concerned there are several other brands that will do fine although some may not take the rough abuse that say the NXS would. I would not worry about it because most guys are careful about banging their high $$$$ rifle around anyway. Maybe you would fit into that same category. I hope this helps. Bill
 

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