I just purchased a 6mm norma br in a savage 12 for a good deal. What all do i need. to start reloagding for this. Its really confusing. What exactly do i need for this caliber. Dies what kind of brass.and please suggest a good reloading kit for beginners. Never reloaded before so any info will help.
new to reloading have a 6mm normabr what do i need
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bozo699
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Turkeyhunter,
I don't know where to start,how much are you willing to spend? You could spend upwards of a thousand dallars just to load for that cartridge,or if you are lucky maybe as little as 300 or so. sounds like you need everything.
Brass-bullets-primers-powder-press-dies-shell holder-loading block-scale-powder disspenser-powder trickler-reloading manual,and that is just the basics to get started.I don't want to disscourage you in fact just the opposite. But if I were you I think I would find a friend willing to help you get started. Buy brass-bullets-powder-primers-dies,you will be $150-$200 just to get started and use his equipment. If for some reason it's not your bag someone will buy your gun and components.But hopfully you will love it as many do,be prepared to work lots of overtime its not a cheap hobby. ask lots of questions never be afraid to ask. anyone of us out here will gladly answer your questions nomatter how silly you may think they are.We started from scratch als
h almost forgot welcome to the forum.
Wayne.
I don't know where to start,how much are you willing to spend? You could spend upwards of a thousand dallars just to load for that cartridge,or if you are lucky maybe as little as 300 or so. sounds like you need everything.
Brass-bullets-primers-powder-press-dies-shell holder-loading block-scale-powder disspenser-powder trickler-reloading manual,and that is just the basics to get started.I don't want to disscourage you in fact just the opposite. But if I were you I think I would find a friend willing to help you get started. Buy brass-bullets-powder-primers-dies,you will be $150-$200 just to get started and use his equipment. If for some reason it's not your bag someone will buy your gun and components.But hopfully you will love it as many do,be prepared to work lots of overtime its not a cheap hobby. ask lots of questions never be afraid to ask. anyone of us out here will gladly answer your questions nomatter how silly you may think they are.We started from scratch als
h almost forgot welcome to the forum.Wayne.
You can buy a complete RCBS kit at Cabellas. It has all of the basic tools you will need to get started. You just need to get the dies and the bullets/brass/powder...ect.
I think the kit is around $300.00 or less.
You may be able to get it other places, and I wouldn't be suprised if Hornady had a kit also.
I would highly advise getting a good loading mannual and read it. Also...find a friend who has been doing it for a while and pick his brain.
Good luck.
I think the kit is around $300.00 or less.
You may be able to get it other places, and I wouldn't be suprised if Hornady had a kit also.
I would highly advise getting a good loading mannual and read it. Also...find a friend who has been doing it for a while and pick his brain.
Good luck.
I guess this is repeating what is above, but, everybody wants to help a new reloader.
You should buy and read a manual *** READING a MANUAL is important. It is interesting, informative, will answer most of your questions and will Keep you safe.
You will need reloading equipment: You can buy varying levels of sets or individual items. Generally, a press, a scale, a powder measure, a lube pad, lube (to keep your shells from sticking in the press), and dies. You will need one set of dies for each caliber you shoot.
You need brass and bullets. The manual will help you select those.
Finally, you will need powder and primers. The manual will help you select those.
I know this is simplistic, but, this is about it. I'm sure others will follow, with help and suggestions. Welcome to reloading. Stay Safe... rc
You should buy and read a manual *** READING a MANUAL is important. It is interesting, informative, will answer most of your questions and will Keep you safe.
You will need reloading equipment: You can buy varying levels of sets or individual items. Generally, a press, a scale, a powder measure, a lube pad, lube (to keep your shells from sticking in the press), and dies. You will need one set of dies for each caliber you shoot.
You need brass and bullets. The manual will help you select those.
Finally, you will need powder and primers. The manual will help you select those.
I know this is simplistic, but, this is about it. I'm sure others will follow, with help and suggestions. Welcome to reloading. Stay Safe... rc
bozo699
Gold $$ Contributor
turkeyhunter,
I should have stressed studying a loading manual as others allready have.I have most manuals available,many from manual #1 to present. I think for the money Hornady has great basics on reloading plus for each cartridge they generally give prefered powder choices bullet weights ect. there is alot of knowledge to be had.
They come in two volumes one on reloading the other on ballistic tables. Borrow some reloading manuals from friends. Remember never subsitute data from one manual for a given weight of bullet,powder,ect for a different brands of bullets,powder,ect. Some reloaders get by doing this and maybe with years of experience you can do some expermenting but for now stick to the manual!!
Sierra and Nosler both give prefered loads for pacific bullets, that can be helpfull.
DO NOT!! GET INFO OFF INTERNET SITES AND USE THEM!!! custom guns may be able to shoot hotter loads than a factory rifle.Many of the bullet and powder makers have there loading data here on the internet and that will be safe usuable free data. Good luck
Wayne.
I should have stressed studying a loading manual as others allready have.I have most manuals available,many from manual #1 to present. I think for the money Hornady has great basics on reloading plus for each cartridge they generally give prefered powder choices bullet weights ect. there is alot of knowledge to be had.
They come in two volumes one on reloading the other on ballistic tables. Borrow some reloading manuals from friends. Remember never subsitute data from one manual for a given weight of bullet,powder,ect for a different brands of bullets,powder,ect. Some reloaders get by doing this and maybe with years of experience you can do some expermenting but for now stick to the manual!!
Sierra and Nosler both give prefered loads for pacific bullets, that can be helpfull.
DO NOT!! GET INFO OFF INTERNET SITES AND USE THEM!!! custom guns may be able to shoot hotter loads than a factory rifle.Many of the bullet and powder makers have there loading data here on the internet and that will be safe usuable free data. Good luck
Wayne.
Go buy yourself a copy of the ABC's of Reloading and read it cover to cover before you even consider making any purchase of reloading equipment. Make sure you understand what is involved and the equipment necessary to get started. Once you have read the book enough times to have a thorough understanding of the process and tools used, then start thinking about purchasing equipment. You will make far better choices when you understand what each piece does than going blindly and buying whatever someone tells you is going to work.
Then I would suggest getting a few other load manuals as well, Modern Reloading is a good book as well as it explains how to use Lee equipment in depth and has a lot of other very useful info. Lee makes good equipment for a beginner, though I am still using a ton of Lee stuff after loading for 10 years. It is priced affordable and will produce good ammo as well.
Good luck and welcome to the forum
Then I would suggest getting a few other load manuals as well, Modern Reloading is a good book as well as it explains how to use Lee equipment in depth and has a lot of other very useful info. Lee makes good equipment for a beginner, though I am still using a ton of Lee stuff after loading for 10 years. It is priced affordable and will produce good ammo as well.
Good luck and welcome to the forum
WANT a 6mmbr what do i need to reload???
Yes, I changed the subject to fit my question(s):
I have much of the above listed(manuals, powder, primers, RCBS press) and have loaded a few years. Have NOT loaded 6br, though and I am considering a build/purchase of one of these in the relative near future. I realize I will need some new equipment also and after reading on this site, there are a lot of things I COULD get, but might not need for starting out. I won't be shooting match (at least not in the foreseeable future.)
What reloading stuff will I need (I KNOW: brass, primers, bullets & powder). I'm wondering as I'm looking at the 6br cartridge page and wondering how much of that stuff I really need (I'll shoot paper and prairie dogs mostly).
recommendations on the following (what to get and do I need them):
- expander mandrel
- flash hold reamer
- special decapping pin (or will this be included in a 6br die set?)
- what dies (sizing, expander, seating...) are recommended given my preference for shooting? and do i need any other tools with any specific die sets?
- other stuff I need vs could or should have?
thanks a million and sorry if this has been hashed over in prior posts. I couldn't find the info.
Yes, I changed the subject to fit my question(s):
I have much of the above listed(manuals, powder, primers, RCBS press) and have loaded a few years. Have NOT loaded 6br, though and I am considering a build/purchase of one of these in the relative near future. I realize I will need some new equipment also and after reading on this site, there are a lot of things I COULD get, but might not need for starting out. I won't be shooting match (at least not in the foreseeable future.)
What reloading stuff will I need (I KNOW: brass, primers, bullets & powder). I'm wondering as I'm looking at the 6br cartridge page and wondering how much of that stuff I really need (I'll shoot paper and prairie dogs mostly).
recommendations on the following (what to get and do I need them):
- expander mandrel
- flash hold reamer
- special decapping pin (or will this be included in a 6br die set?)
- what dies (sizing, expander, seating...) are recommended given my preference for shooting? and do i need any other tools with any specific die sets?
- other stuff I need vs could or should have?
thanks a million and sorry if this has been hashed over in prior posts. I couldn't find the info.
bozo699
Gold $$ Contributor
Mhdick,
I have everything you mentioned and then some and I don't have enough somtimes.But if you are on a buget or are just shooting prairie dogs and paper for your own pleasure I guess you could get by w/good brass (Lapua) a set of redding neck bushing dies (basic set) $92.95 @ sinclair.you will need a bushing maybe 2 or 3 of them I am not sure of neck thickness of 6br Lapua brass It wouldn't be hard to find out here on 6br but I will guess you will need a .270-.272 bushings. A flashhole reamer would be nice but not a must for what you want it for.If Lee makes dies for 6br there good ones would be around $32 if money is a problem. Just having good brass a 6br will shoot better than most w/nothing done to it. If $ is no problem call sinclair get your credit card out and wait for the big brown truck w/about 4 big box's of boy toy's LOL.
Be safe and enjoy.
Wayne.
I have everything you mentioned and then some and I don't have enough somtimes.But if you are on a buget or are just shooting prairie dogs and paper for your own pleasure I guess you could get by w/good brass (Lapua) a set of redding neck bushing dies (basic set) $92.95 @ sinclair.you will need a bushing maybe 2 or 3 of them I am not sure of neck thickness of 6br Lapua brass It wouldn't be hard to find out here on 6br but I will guess you will need a .270-.272 bushings. A flashhole reamer would be nice but not a must for what you want it for.If Lee makes dies for 6br there good ones would be around $32 if money is a problem. Just having good brass a 6br will shoot better than most w/nothing done to it. If $ is no problem call sinclair get your credit card out and wait for the big brown truck w/about 4 big box's of boy toy's LOL.
Be safe and enjoy.Wayne.
I did up a post in answer to this question, but put it in the wrong thread. Here it is:
I would suggest the following to get started:
Lapua brass
Lee Anniversary Reloading Kit
Lee #2 Shell Holder
Lyman powder trickler
Hornady reloading dies (or if you want to jump into the deep end to learn to swim, then the Forster Bump/Bushing Die with a .267 bushing, and a Forster Micrometer Seating Die)
Lee case length trimmer. You may get one in 6BR at Midway. If not you can shorten a .243 WSSM to work.
Vernier gauge
Micrometer with vernier gauge to read to 1/10th thou.
See this link to see what is necessary to reload. Note that this is the first of three pages:
http://www.optimalchargeweight.embarqspace.com/#/tools-of-the-trade/4529825076
A couple of tips:
1. You don't need a fancy powder measure. Just use your measure to get a load that is slightly under, and weigh it. Use the powder trickler to bring the weight up to exact.
2. Cut a case (one single cut will do) and use it to find the distance to the lands in your gun. Use one single bullet of a batch and measure the overall length. Then seat that same bullet by trial and error (starting long) to get the same overall length. Save that loaded cartridge to set the length of your seating die. A bit more info here, but you really don't need the gauges they talk about, just the vernier gauge and cut case. Note, that this length is just to the lands. You will have to then adjust the seating die to give you a jump or jam from this "zero" point.
http://www.larrywillis.com/OAL.html
I would suggest the following to get started:
Lapua brass
Lee Anniversary Reloading Kit
Lee #2 Shell Holder
Lyman powder trickler
Hornady reloading dies (or if you want to jump into the deep end to learn to swim, then the Forster Bump/Bushing Die with a .267 bushing, and a Forster Micrometer Seating Die)
Lee case length trimmer. You may get one in 6BR at Midway. If not you can shorten a .243 WSSM to work.
Vernier gauge
Micrometer with vernier gauge to read to 1/10th thou.
See this link to see what is necessary to reload. Note that this is the first of three pages:
http://www.optimalchargeweight.embarqspace.com/#/tools-of-the-trade/4529825076
A couple of tips:
1. You don't need a fancy powder measure. Just use your measure to get a load that is slightly under, and weigh it. Use the powder trickler to bring the weight up to exact.
2. Cut a case (one single cut will do) and use it to find the distance to the lands in your gun. Use one single bullet of a batch and measure the overall length. Then seat that same bullet by trial and error (starting long) to get the same overall length. Save that loaded cartridge to set the length of your seating die. A bit more info here, but you really don't need the gauges they talk about, just the vernier gauge and cut case. Note, that this length is just to the lands. You will have to then adjust the seating die to give you a jump or jam from this "zero" point.
http://www.larrywillis.com/OAL.html
bozo699 said:
No the WSSM has a larger .532" or so head. So you do have to buy two kits at about $4 each to go the Lee route for case trimming. One is the .243 WSSM to get the length guage, and then a .308, 243 Win, or a number of others to get the case holder that is 0.473" to fit the 6BR. It is too bad you can't just buy one and trim it down, but they are much too long, while you only need to take about 0.110" off the WSSM. I just chucked the length gauge in a drill, and took a file to the shoulder. The center pin is harder and I used a Dremel disk on it.
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