New Sierra 195 gr TMK soon
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Cost as much as Berger's now. The question is, do they perform like Berger's. A long action 308win is looking like a reality with all these long new 30 cal bullets.
Check out Borden's new intermediate size action. There is a post with pictures in the main forum.
shoot4fun
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By the numbers the Berger 185 G1 BC is .576 and MSRP $62/100, the Berger 200 Hybrid G1 BC .616 and cost a couple bucks more. The new Sierra 195TMK boasts an advertised G1 BC of .610 and MSRP $51.19/100.
Looking at cost of bullets is (pun intended) pointless. If you're spending hundred thousands) of $$ on practice, components, travel costs, etc to shoot your best then the cost of the bullets should not be out-weighed by your confidence in the bullet you choose.
While Hornady is telling us about melting tips Sierra is touting a new line of supposed high BC match bullets with plastic tips.
I believe when Berger tells me their BC numbers and there is no wondering about tips.
Looking at cost of bullets is (pun intended) pointless. If you're spending hundred thousands) of $$ on practice, components, travel costs, etc to shoot your best then the cost of the bullets should not be out-weighed by your confidence in the bullet you choose.
While Hornady is telling us about melting tips Sierra is touting a new line of supposed high BC match bullets with plastic tips.
I believe when Berger tells me their BC numbers and there is no wondering about tips.
With sierras 175 TMK being about 40.00 per 100, don't think the 195s will be over 48.00 per 100. The MSRP is always higher than online costs. Still much lower than most other match bullets of the same weight. Hornady being the exception...for now.
Can't go by the MSRP... it is the MAP that is important.. that is the actual price.. now.. a vendor can sell for less than MAP.. just can't advertise that price lower than that MAP price.. Pricing can get to be a sticky subject..
More bullet options is always a good thing, and competition has done a great job improving product quality and offerings. Nosler, Hornady, Sierra, and Berger all have introduced some great looking new bullets in 2016, and shooters should benefit. So far, at least Nosler and Hornady are exerting some healthy downward price pressure in the market also.
If we can keep the feds and courts out of the shooting sports, the next decade looks like an exciting time to be a shooter. I am hoping Berger will follow Nosler's lead and improve the pointing situation.
If we can keep the feds and courts out of the shooting sports, the next decade looks like an exciting time to be a shooter. I am hoping Berger will follow Nosler's lead and improve the pointing situation.
Been shooting Berger 185s loaded pretty long in a short action. Definitely a long action could help. Unlike the 284, the 308 case is shorter and loading longer is a bit easier while still using a short action. The 195s will be even longer especially with the tipped version. The long action will be useful for anything much longer than that 185.
shoot4fun
Gold $$ Contributor
I fully understand MAP/MSRP as I would see from my signature line. Yes, MSRP/MAP pricing is a sticky subject. I've seen dealers lose great product lines because of it. But not to derail the thread's mission.
My reference was simply to point out that the TMK doesn't cost the same as comparable Berger. There is a very wide disparity in actual bullet prices from vendor to vendor so it's hard to compare prices for bullets that are in the market place and those that are not yet in the market place, hence my use of MSRP.
Twitchy
Brass Junky
Bringing this one back from the dead to discuss the 195 TMK. Has anyone done any load testing with it (308)? I'm sitting on a large pile of 175 SMKs, but am considering trying out the 195 TMK for future comps. I haven't found any load data other than the original article.
FYI, I saw the price for the TMKs is about $.41/bullet while the Bergers are $.51-.55/bullet depending on which 185 you're referencing.
FYI, I saw the price for the TMKs is about $.41/bullet while the Bergers are $.51-.55/bullet depending on which 185 you're referencing.
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