New Lee pocket swager...
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Get a Dillon, it's a little pricey compared to anything LEE makes, but the best is never cheap. At another forum I used to frequent, one of the members summed up LEE. It went, "LEE very often is very inovative in the products they produce, they however frequently execute these innovations with inferior materials. Buy the Dillon, the few bucks extra you spend now will be forgotten soon.
nicholst55
Brass Whore
I haven't used the Lee tool, but IMHO the Dillon Super Swager or the RCBS copy of it are the way to go. I have written opinions of Lee products that mirror what Twicepop said. Great idea; poor execution.
danny
Silver $$ Contributor
I have the Dillon Superswage, what is supposed to be the Gold Standard of swagers, but to be honest, I don't really like it. It isn't so much the swager that I dislike, it is swaging, period. I don't like the the idea of shoving something big (a swager) in a primer pocket, something that puts outward force on the pocket. That stands a chance of doing something to the primer pocket. I would be more inclined to cut (ream) the pocket, and my choice right now would be the Wilson Primer Pocket Chamfer Tool, but in full disclosure, I have nevee used it.
Danny
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nicholst55
Brass Whore
Primer pocket swaging rates right up there next to case trimming for my least favorite steps in brass processing. The only advantage it has is that it only needs to be performed once for the life of the brass. I tried reaming/cutting, and found that I had to re-do too many pieces of brass. My ideal brass prep involves handling each piece of brass the fewest number of times possible before it becomes a viable loaded cartridge. Swaging allows me to do that. Too many people have swaged too much brass for too long for me to worry about it potentially damaging a piece of brass. If it does, toss it in the recycle bucket and move on.
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danny
Silver $$ Contributor
I found that I had to re-do too many pieces of brass when using the Superswage, so it does work both ways.
Danny
I have every type of hand reamer and several swage dies and prefer the Hornady swedge in the video below. It may be slower than the Dillon but it's easy to use and the swedge itself is smooth carbide.
To me the Hornady swedge is setup 180 degrees opposite of the RCBS swage. And it has never caused any damage to the case. And depending on your press you do not have to remove the case ram to place the case in the press.
And for the reloaders who want to swage faster and multitask while swaging. And it's faster than the Dillon swage.
To me the Hornady swedge is setup 180 degrees opposite of the RCBS swage. And it has never caused any damage to the case. And depending on your press you do not have to remove the case ram to place the case in the press.
And for the reloaders who want to swage faster and multitask while swaging. And it's faster than the Dillon swage.
No, I have not used it, I had to look it up to see what the LEE APP is. I have other equipment to do what this looks like it should do. The only other primer pocket swager I've had any experience with is the RCBS unit that attaches to the press ram and has a type of die body to hold the case. A friend of mine has one of these and I think it is about the most miserable POS imaginable. This is the second one he's had (didn't learn from the first one). The Dillon may not be the best, but it's what I have and it handles everything with a crimped primer from 9MM cases up through 30-06.
I have used the Dillion. I have used and still have somewhere in a drawer the RCBS and now I have used the Lee APP and based off any measure the Lee is the way to go. It’s just as cheap much faster and does just as good a job and also performs several other tasks very well.
I decapped and sized 9mm brass as fast as I could pull the handle over a couple days off and on and I now have 10,000 pieces all shiny clean and ready to run thru the Dillon 650
I decapped and sized 9mm brass as fast as I could pull the handle over a couple days off and on and I now have 10,000 pieces all shiny clean and ready to run thru the Dillon 650
pirate ammo
Guaranteed to take the wind out of their sails
I got one of them things just to try, works great depriming. Changed out the single case feed system to a
to a 4 tube I had from a Lee Loadmaster I'm using for parts.
Buttstock-TX
Silver $$ Contributor
I acquired a Lee Ram Swage yesterday and ran about 150 cases today. I own and have used the RCBS die system and have used a borrowed Dillon swage. In my experience, the Lee is clearly the way to go. It is easy to adjust and much less expensive than the alternatives...
Most of my equipment is Lee and the Ram Swage does it's job well.
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