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Seldonman

I am basically a newbie to guns and this forum but hope to become more knowledgeable as well as become a more accurate shooter. When my son was in his early teens he wanted to do target shooting so we bought him a Savage Mark I, single shot, bolt action 22 rifle. He actually became pretty good and he had the rifle sent to a gunsmith to put Leyman Sights on it. Fast forward 20 years and we still have the gun and recently shot it. Now, my other Son in Idaho has inherited many guns from his Father-in-Law who unfortunately passed away young. He is very much into guns and hunting and becoming quite the expert. I just visited him and the family this past week and he gave me a 38 Smith and Wesson plus a Marlin 336 30 30 lever action rifle. NOW FOR THE QUESTIONS!

I would like to put Leyman sights on this gun. Is this recommended? Would a gunsmith be required to install the sights. Should I put a scope on instead? Scope easier to install? Or, call the whole thing off and use as is? Next question! It is missing one teeny, tiny little screw and that is the Trigger Guard Plate Support Screw, P/N 301490. Can I shoot this gun without this screw installed without damaging the gun? Must I wait for Ruger to re-manufacture this special little screw?

Okay, that’s all the questions for now. Thanks for any help you can give.



Jim AKA Seldonman
 
Jim,
Welcome to the forum. Many great minds, gunsmiths, tinketers and DIYselfers that will be glad to help you out. Stick around and I bet you my bottom dollar & a donut that you will learn something everyday.

Edward
 
Yup..welcome fellow AZ shooter....as mentioned someone here will have the answers
to your questions and the ones you havent thought of yet..
My suggestion would be to become a paying member and really reap the rewards of this fine Forum
and the benefits that members have.
 
Congrats on your new firearms, my condolences to your Son’s family for losing their father. I have a couple of my grandfather’s rifles and will inherit my fathers and my children will get mine. It’s one of the neat things about guns, they often become heirlooms. The Marlin 336 is a classic, it would be fun to know just how many big game animals have been taken with a Marlin 336 chambered in 30-30. I have a few Marlin lever actions and most of them have peep sights, I’m assuming that’s the sight your referring to when asking about Lyman sights. Peeps sights are a lot of fun and much more accurate than buckhorn sights, at least that’s my opinion. Willams is another company that makes a good peep sight for the Marlin 336. You can go to their websites and find installation instructions, lots of good gunsmiths in the Valley of the sun too. without knowing what screw you’re asking about I would advise finding one to replace it or getting a qualified opinion before using it, you never know.

I like Sandstorm’s suggestion about buying a membership, I use this site a lot and for all the knowledge gained and friends met it‘s some of the best money I’ve spent. Welcome to the forum!
 
If it is an older 336, it should be drilled and tapped on the left side of the receiver for a receiver sight. A Lyman or Williams receiver sight should not be hard to find. Remove the aperture and use it like a ghost ring. Look at Brownell's to see what they have.

The Williams Foolproof is a good choice for a hunting rifle. No knobs to get knocked out of zero. I'm kind of partial to the Lyman 48 because it is steel.

Also look at XS sights. They have a rugged top receiver mounted peep.
 
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You have a cpl more options on the 336 as well,choices choices.

There is what's known as a tang sight. Has a real nostalgic "attitude". And there are peep sights that mount to the factory drilled,scope base holes.

The more well defined you can present your goals,the easier it "should" be to come to a workable solution. This is but one,very good reason shooters have more than one(12,haha) firearms. They fill very specific needs.

Welcome to this "site".... plenty of reading here. Look below,you'll see similar threads listed,just beware of post dates.Quite often these can answer questions,some you may not even thought of.
 
Do not shot it with out the Trigger Guard Plate Support Screw, it is one of two that holds things together.
Gunparts.com or Ebay or maybe Jackfirst gun parts.
Depending on the DOM you will have factory receiver sight side mounting on models up to '55, when they added top receiver mounting and then in the 80's just the top mounting was offered.
DOM is determined by first two digits of the serial number.
If it was made by Remington there are other Dating conventions I can point you too.
 
OLeveraction said:
Do not shot it with out the Trigger Guard Plate Support Screw, it is one of two that holds things together.
Gunparts.com or Ebay or maybe Jackfirst gun parts.
Depending on the DOM you will have factory receiver sight side mounting on models up to '55, when they added top receiver mounting and then in the 80's just the top mounting was offered.
DOM is determined by first two digits of the serial number.
If it was made by Remington there are other Dating conventions I can point you too.
Click to expand...
The serial number is AA31042. This was my son's Father in Law Father's rifle so I guess it could be a 1931 model. Wowzers, that's older than me!
 
OLeveraction said:
Do not shot it with out the Trigger Guard Plate Support Screw, it is one of two that holds things together.
Gunparts.com or Ebay or maybe Jackfirst gun parts.
Depending on the DOM you will have factory receiver sight side mounting on models up to '55, when they added top receiver mounting and then in the 80's just the top mounting was offered.
DOM is determined by first two digits of the serial number.
If it was made by Remington there are other Dating conventions I can point you too.
Click to expand...
The serial number is AA31042. This was my son's Father in Law Father's rifle so I guess it could be a 1931 model. Wowzers, that's older than me!
 
Seldonman said:
The serial number is AA31042. This was my son's Father in Law Father's rifle so I guess it could be a 1931 model. Wowzers, that's older than me!
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AA would be 1965 DOM
It should Drilled and Tapped for a top mounted Receiver sight or Scope base and have the Side mount.
Receiver Sights usually means a taller front sight, depends on the shooter, I have always needed taller sights shooting 50-200 meters. The .360" front is good for 200m+
 
OLeveraction said:
AA would be 1965 DOM
It should Drilled and Tapped for a top mounted Receiver sight or Scope base and have the Side mount.
Receiver Sights usually means a taller front sight, depends on the shooter, I have always needed taller sights shooting 50-200 meters. The .360" front is good for 200m+
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Yes, 1965 agrees with what my son told me. Thanks
 
When I was 7 or 8 I learned to shoot my Dad's Stevens 84C bolt action .22LR repeater. Soon I wanted something better than the open sights. Dad and I took the rifle and went to downtown Cleveland to a gunshop called Hart Arms. There we talked with Art Hart about upgrading the sights on the Stevens. I decided on a Lyman receiver sight and a covered Globe front sight with inserts. Art Hart was a real gunsmith so we left the rifle for him to do the work. Art gave me a copy of the last years Gun Digest and my love for firearms was underway.
 
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