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new 8x32 sightron with moa redical

hello

i was wondering if anyone has tried out the new sightron 8x32 longrange scope with the moa redical?what are your thoughts pros and cons???

thanks Darin
 
Have been withing impatiently in the UK for these to show up as well.
The UK importer has been told that the shipment has been caught up in the Japanese earthquake disaster - suppose to be any day now for about a month,

Season is approaching, may have to get a Nightforce instead,

Dave
 
For my $$ Sightron screwed up the new LRMOA reticle when they made the middle dot 1/4 moa. It works for a tactical rifle but not for varmints, IMO.

I'll stay with the 1/8" dot on fch, bought a 2nd hand one today in fact.
 
Re: new 8x32 Sightron with moa reticle

Scope arrived today - Friday - at 0900, two days after making the order. I can not ask more than that.

I have just managed to mount it in a set of Burris Signature Z rings, size "high" and they are pretty much spot on, a couple of mil between the objective lens and barrel. (I have a 20 moa base)

Too early to say yet what I think of it, as I have only looked through it from in doors, without it being mounted, I can not say what the optics are like, certainly not bad.

In the UK this Sightron is selling for £878 GBP, an 8-32 NXS Nightforce are selling for just over £1600. Despite it being half the price of a Nightforce it is still a lot of money and certainly a lot more than a Nikon or Burris.

Handling the scope leaves me feeling like this is the same as any other scope that I have handled, there is no "wow" factor, no special gimmicks, just a simple 8-32x scope. The elevation clicks are positive and should cause no problems with competition nerves. The focus does not have any yardage on it, justs a increasing wedge pattern with the thin edge being for close in and the thick edge for far out. Not sure why they have done this as it gives that function a cheap feel.

The reticle is promising, the centre is a dot with no lines immediately touching it but there is a good set of marks which I will use to assist with aiming off, during strings of shots.

So in summary, AIM have excelled themselves, the court is out on Sightron until I get it to the range and that may be a week or two away,

http://aimfieldsports.com/ Is a UK company, I am a UK shooter.
 
phinpad

be sure to give us a range report i am wondering if the center dot is to big like as been mention before for target shooting like in fclass or off the bench.
 
Re: new 8x32 Sightron with moa reticle

PHINPAD said:
<snip> The focus does not have any yardage on it, justs a increasing wedge pattern with the thin edge being for close in and the thick edge for far out. Not sure why they have done this as it gives that function a cheap feel.
http://aimfieldsports.com/ Is a UK company, I am a UK shooter.

Just to be clear, the "focus" to which you refer is the parallax adjustment. It is actually NOT a focus function when used as designed and as appropriate. Even Sightron (like some other mfgs, unfortunately) refers to it as "side focus"... ???

Parallax adjustment enables the user to (ideally) place the reticle and the target on the same focal plane, which is a great aid in eliminating parallax-induced aiming errors.

Focus occurs via the ring at the rear of the scope, immediately adjacent to the ocular lens.

Cheers to you my UK mate. Looking forward to further info re: your exploits with your new scope.
 
I have now placed the scope where I want it in the rings and have had a better feel of it, but sadly all from home and this is what I have found so far.
The objective bell is 3mm above the barrel and at that point the centre of bore to centre of scope is exactly 2 inches, which is easy to remember.
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Firstly I should make clear that I am an “average Joe” when it comes to shooting, although F Class is my main discipline this year I am knew to it and have spent the last 5 years or so shooting Ruger 10/22’s and Marlin lever action in .357 mag.
It has taken me a couple of seasons to get my F class rig to this stage and with the exception of the Bipod; I have taken it as far as this Remy 700 can go. My previous glass, and up until my Sightron, the most expensive that I had owned, was a Falcon Menace 4.5-18x56 similar to the one reviewed at http://www.snipercentral.com/menace.htm.
First thing that I notice is that the positive clicks on the Turrets really are very positive. Winding them up and down is almost painful and you can’t help wondering if it is doing the internals any good. I am sure that the clicks will loosen off slightly as the scope gets used more and I can rest in piece knowing that the scope comes with a great warranty – should I need it.
I counted 80 MOA elevation on my scope, 10 MOA more than advertised, I cannot comment on why this should be, but that is the way that it is. Sightron have marked their Elevation and wind turret in a unusual manner as shown in this picture:
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I tend not to use the lines on any scope for elevation, as I wind all the way down to the bottom and then add on my settings as need be from there, but I can see that this system could be confusing to some. I will certainly need to keep an eye on things when adjusting for wind.

Onto optics and that dot!
The dot is .25 MOA and as the scope is in the first focal plane, it stays at that size no matter what the distance. (I think that is right, ducking for cover just in case). Certainly the furthest object that I can see from my kitchen is a brick wall 162 yards away (Bushnell 1500 range finder). I was able to see that the dot was ever so slightly smaller that the mortar between the bricks. As this is the same brickwork on my house I can say that the mortar is roughly one inch high. I can say that should I have been in a position too I could have taken a head shot at a pigeon sitting on that wall.
I have no more to add re the quality of the optics, they do what is necessary. There is no blurring near the edges but then you would not expect it on a scope of this quality. Today is a bright sunny day so everything looks good, it will not be until I get to the range that I will be able to see how well they pick up the all important V.
I will mention that the instructions give a quick reference to mil dots and cover the equations required to use them, no reference was made to the marks on this scope or how to use them – I am assuming (dangerous) that they are one MOA apart, if so that will greatly assist with making this sighter shots count.
Also in the box was a sand colored Sightron baseball cap, always nice to get free bees, a scope blanket - I assume to store the scope in if it is off your rifle, and a set of unfortunately cheap flip up covers. I got the same covers with the Falcon Menace and found that they quickly lost their click, to shut and then broke. I have not put them on the scope but may purchase a set of Butler Creek covers with my next order from Sinclair’s.
That is all for now, should I get to the range before anyone else makes a report I will let you know what I find,
 
Thanks for your report. Regarding the .25" dot: if one is shooting at long range alone and cranks down the power so as to better see POI the size of that dot beyond 400 yards can interfere with precision aim at prairie dog sized targets.

One other note: Here in the States the Butler Creek flip up that fits the front of the Sightron 56mm Obj end is the #51 and Butler Creek's mold for this one is defective as these won't stay snapped shut even when new.
I have BC flip ups my my Sightron 50mm and 60mm obj scopes and they work fine. I had a talk with a customer service guy at Bushnell USA hdquarters about bad 51's I tried in stores in several states but he seemed more amused that I would want to inform him of defective product. I doubt they have much input for QC in their phillipine factory.
 
new 8x32 Sightron with moa reticle

Last weekend saw me shoot my first competition with the knew scope and it was the first time that I have seen the knew F Class targets with half MOA V bulls. (Not sure if they are international targets or a UK idea.

All I can say is that I was really pleased with my scope. At every distance I was able to place the shot exactly where I wanted it. For the first time I could see my cross hairs, or in this case my dot, travel around inside the V Bull. Prior to this scope my cross hairs would have easily covered the V Bull and probably much of the 5 ring as well.

I shot along side a Nightforce shooter who was shooting with an old Benchrest Nightforce and he thought the Sightron had better optics. I do not want to start a this is better than that argument but suffice to say that I am really happy with the scope.

We finished the day at 1000 yards and I noticed that I only had 5MOA of elevation left, so I have fitted the -10 & +10 inserts into the Burris Z rings so that I can get past 1000 yards and hopefully out to 1200 yards. I was disappointed to round off one of the Burris screws and will have to find a replacement, hopefully made of better stuff.
I do use a torque wrench,

Dave
 
phinphad

did you find the scope buzy?what i mean was it bothering to have all those hash marks in the scope?and are the are the crosshairs touching the dot in the center?
 
new 8x32 Sightron with moa reticle

Bulldog,

I did not find the reticle too busy, but then I am use to a similar reticle from my old scope. As someone who sometimes holds off, I found all the marking to be of use.
The cross hairs do not touch the centre dot, possibly giving 1 moa between where they stop and start again on the other side. Looking at the diagram on the Sightron page, it is difficult to work out. http://www.sightron.com/index.php?action=view_document&did=1201816362&cat_id=6&id=171

I don't want to say the obvious but all those letters and the lines giving the dimensions are not actually on the reticle!
Unfortunately I did not take a copy of the dimensions with me to my first match but could see where it would have been handy. I will enlarge it and print it out for my next match!
I have learnt that the international F class V bulls are black and not the white ones I shot against last week - it will be interesting to see how the black dot copes with those when I shoot my first league match in June,

Dave
 

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