Neck tension dies and bushings.. school me

[ducks-and-bucks]

I have the full length resizing/decapping dies and seater dies for what I reload... but I want to get into the neck dies and bushings to uniform things up and be able to fire form and neck size only... what do I need to get and what is the correct way to do it?

 

[savageshooter86]

easy and simplest way--- Lee Collet Die

More tedious and more tools-- Neck turn brass to uniform neck and get a neck sizer die and a few different bushing sizes. You would want to turn necks to uniform size then measure a few seated bullets in the case and take the neck size reading. Then order bushings based off the reading you got to be able to play with neck tension just how you want it and how your rifle likes it.

What rifle and what are plans for use?

Do a search and a ton of topics should come up

 

[DanConzo]

You can also purchase a fl bushing die to size and push the shoulder w/o using a bushing in concert w/ the Lee Collet Die then if you ever need to use a bushing you can; or you can simply get a body die for the sizing and shoulder push. Get at least two mandrels for the collet die.

 

[savagedasher]

Forster redding RCBS are a few, Bushing come in .001 differences like .267 .268 .269 you use a bushing to get the correct tension Good Shooting Larry

 

[bozo699]

You can also purchase a fl bushing die to size and push the shoulder w/o using a bushing in concert w/ the Lee Collet Die then if you ever need to use a bushing you can; or you can simply get a body die for the sizing and shoulder push. Get at least two mandrels for the collet die.

Much better advice here, there is no need to ever neck size! by following your other threads your trying to go long so your going to have full powerhouse loads and your going to need to f/l size everytime, don't let yourself get into that neck sizing following !!
You can make really good ammo though with a Redding body die and a Lee collet neck die,...best of both worlds there
Wayne.

 

[savagedasher]

Unless you get a custom die for your chamber.I feel full length sizing can over work your brass. If your going to load the same brass for different gun you must full length size.I shoot a no turn neck dasher i use a bump bushing die. I normal only do half the neck the bottom half is not sized.I do the same with lee collet dies that is done by using a machined flat washer on the base of the of the brass.Everybody load different. Good Shooting Larry

 

[bozo699]

Unless you get a custom die for your chamber.I feel full length sizing can over work your brass. If your going to load the same brass for different gun you must full length size.I shoot a no turn neck dasher i use a bump bushing die. I normal only do half the neck the bottom half is not sized.I do the same with lee collet dies that is done by using a machined flat washer on the base of the of the brass.Everybody load different. Good Shooting Larry

All but one of my Dasher dies are custom, doesn't everybody use custom dies that compete? and a off the shelf Redding f/l bushing die will do a good job and won't over size to much if the die is set up correctly and have proper measuring equipment to measure bump.
Wayne.

 

[savagedasher]

I believe hes new to reloading so my answer was pointed to someone with out allot of experience
Good Shooting Larry

 

[BoydAllen]

Putting the question of whether you should FL or neck size aside, measure the neck of a loaded round, near the case mouth, and order bushings .002 and possibly .003 smaller than that. If you are not turning case necks, and you chambers are factory, you may want to consider Lee Collet dies. I hear that they may have some issues with quality control these days, but nothing that you cannot handle with a little polishing and deburring. These dies will give very straight ammo. I would combine them with body dies, if your loads require body sizing. I might also add a Forster seater if you are sticking with threaded dies. Some bushing dies give you the option of an expander or a decapping pin retainer. If you are not turning necks, you can use the expander with no fear of creating concentricity issues as long as the bushing you select is not too small. You should just barely feel the expander passing through the neck.