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I'm thinking of a new rifle, one that will shoot in the wind, as I suck at reading wind.
It would be nice to have less recoil than a 30 BR. 100 to 500 yards. I have been reading a little about 115 DETAC and am clueless to what they are. And of course a load easy to tune.
Can you take a minute and share your thoughts.
thanks

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[R.Morehouse]

Look at the 6.5 Grendel. High BC factory ammo Lapua brass. I have shot the 123g Lapua Scenars with great results out to 600 personally. Feed and shoot great out of a bolt gun or AR platform......Just a thought.......Rick

 

[Phil]

I don`t have one, but i`d look at the 6 XC, brass available, or the 6 SLR, only requires a shoulder set back, simple process...

.260 or the AI variant would work well too.......

Phil.

 

[argrendel]

I also have a Grendel. Love it. But in an ar, my loads are 2500fps shooting 123 Lapua. In a bolt gun? Another 200fps or so.

6.5 Creed?

I'm enjoying a 243 right now. I know barrel life is short, but low recoil, good in wind, and very accurate.

 

[swd]

For all around performance it would be tough to beat a 6 Dasher or 6 BRX. Throat it on the long side for 105-107's and you can shoot 115's too. 115 DTAC's won't gain much at all over the 105-107's at 500 yards.

 

[mac86951]

With a bolt gun, I'd recommend 6.5 grendel. Seat the bullets farther out than 2.260 and you can get excllent results. It'll be a long life barrel, and plenty of components around since its 220 russian based.

My fav is the look on the AK guys face when I'm picking up all the 7.62x39 brass that he thought was trash. Large primer 6.5 Grendel works fine, but I'd reserve the small primer brass for beyond 300y.

-Mac

 

[ireload2]

You can't find any magic that allows you to avoid the wind.
Get a .22 LR and practice with it.
I have shot a .45-70 with 500 grain bullets at 110 meters. In a walking speed breeze (about 4 mph) the bullet will move about 1 " reliably.
You may not get to be a top wind reader but any practice helps.

I'm thinking of a new rifle, one that will shoot in the wind, as I suck at reading wind.
It would be nice to have less recoil than a 30 BR. 100 to 500 yards. I have been reading a little about 115 DETAC and am clueless to what they are. And of course a load easy to tune.
Can you take a minute and share your thoughts.
thanks

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[swd]

The more I though about it a straight 6BR would make the most sense at 500. There's probably nothing more accurate at that range. Practically no recoil and only slightly behind the XC, Dasher and BRX in drift and significantly better than a 6.5 Grendel in accuracy and wind drift. No fire forming, cheap components and if your already shooting a 30BR, screw a barrel on your existing rifle and go shoot.

 

[Greyfox]

There's no magic caliber or bullet for wind. Your best solution is to get (if you don't already have them) a decent set of wind flags and shoot a lot. Don't just go to the range when it's calm. Matter of fact, don't even go when it's calm as it's a waste of time and components. Only go when it's windy and switchy. It will take time, but you will learn. Chasing the best rifle for wind is a fool's errand.

Rick

 

[snowpro440]

I'm thinking of a new rifle, one that will shoot in the wind, as I suck at reading wind.
It would be nice to have less recoil than a 30 BR. 100 to 500 yards. I have been reading a little about 115 DETAC and am clueless to what they are. And of course a load easy to tune.
Can you take a minute and share your thoughts.
thanks

Link, Yesterday

I think it would be great to be able to have wind flags at all matches, but the barrels and components have gotten so good over the years that the wind and mirage is the thing to overcome now. I don't see a caliber out there that the wind don't push so you might just get a 6BR or 6PPC and learn to deal with it. If conditions are constant learn to shoot in it. If there changing then watch and wait till it changes again.

 

[Shynloco]

I'm thinking of a new rifle, one that will shoot in the wind, as I suck at reading wind.
It would be nice to have less recoil than a 30 BR. 100 to 500 yards......

Link, Yesterday

Link,
Don't give up on the 30BR. If recoil bothers you (age or have a disability that would be irritated), put a Suppressor on the barrel. At 69yrs+, I don't have a Suppressor on mine, but have friends (my age and older) who have them on theirs and enjoy excellent accuracy and grouping. The 30 BR has excellent accuracy in the distance(s) you listed. Take a look at the 30BR information provided on this blog under the listing of the various calibers. Excellent and very useful info to get you started in building one. Other members here can also give you additional info and guidance as well.

Alex

 

[ebb]

Sounds like you want to play video games not shoot a real rifle. My old helicopter game had invincible mood where you couldn't shoot it down no matter what mistakes you made. Believe me if its too easy you will lose interest soon.

 

[Liven The Dream]

115 d-tacks need to be at 2950 +++ Been there. Great Bullet.
Short Barrel life 1700 to 1900 cost to much !

A lot better things to look at. .308 with 175 or 185 very hard to beat . longer barrel life.

 

[potatoe]

If he didn't like the 30br's recoil he will hate the 308's. This seems like a 6br, dasher, or 6x47 something like that to me. I would go with a dasher just because I love 'em

 

[Shynloco]

Sounds like you want to play video games not shoot a real rifle. My old helicopter game had invincible mood where you couldn't shoot it down no matter what mistakes you made. Believe me if its too easy you will lose interest soon.

Obviously you don't get it! Some people out here have physical disabilities (combat injuries suffered in Vietnam) where they have a choice to either not shoot or participate in their passion, or put a Suppressor on their barrels that softens the shock to their injured shoulder or infirmity. So go play your video games as you apparently don't have a clue of what I was referring to.

Alex

 

[johnfred1965]

+1 for the 6br, although I am a great fan of of the Grendel. Keep shooting the 30br if that is what you have, those short low BC bullets will give you lots of wind reading practice.

 

[MarkS]

I'm thinking of a new rifle, one that will shoot in the wind, as I suck at reading wind.
It would be nice to have less recoil than a 30 BR. 100 to 500 yards. I have been reading a little about 115 DETAC and am clueless to what they are. And of course a load easy to tune.
Can you take a minute and share your thoughts.
thanks

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You will have to remember the wind will blow a 747. 6mm BR shooting 105 VLD's
+1 on what Grayfox said.

Mark Schronce

 

[mac86951]

I call bs to that. I have a 599y barrel... no wind problem

You will have to remember the wind will blow a 747. 6mm BR shooting 105 VLD's
+1 on what Grayfox said.

Mark Schronce

Hmm, makes me wonder what the BC is on a 747...

 

[Link]

This is what we seem to see in open class at 300 yd
308 165 gr is #1
6BR 105 gr #2
6ppc 68fb gr #3
30BR 115 #4

The range is setup with a couple of wind ribbons 1 at 100 and 1 at 200 1 at 300
The wind usually has a change of direction from 3 o'clock to 12 o'clock at 200 because of trees.
I try to read the long grass, trees and the tape ribbons.
This shoot is a backyard fun competition. More fun when you do better lol
Now it appears to me that the longer heavier bullets do better in the wind.
Or maybe it is the driver ? This is why I was thinking a 115 or 105gr.
I remember something a member wrote a while back "there is no chocolate ice cream" Maybe we are just a bunch of backyard shooters that need to shoot more often. Thanks for the replys