anyone have any expirence with this rifle...i noticed on a youtube video that mossberg has come out with a newer version that is supposed to be lighter and shorter...great concept...any one got any info at all ....will be greatly appreciated
Mossberg MVP .223
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not many out there....
they're a budget gun....in all sense of the term. The action isn't very smooth, the feed (although reliable) is still rather sketch...with the swing down arm, and the stocks seem to chip/crack very easily. I haven't seen a single one (i've seen 4-5 in person) that WASN'T chipped at the front of the stock...
If i were in the cheap cheap market...i'd surely just get a Stevens 200 and go from that instead.
they're a budget gun....in all sense of the term. The action isn't very smooth, the feed (although reliable) is still rather sketch...with the swing down arm, and the stocks seem to chip/crack very easily. I haven't seen a single one (i've seen 4-5 in person) that WASN'T chipped at the front of the stock...
If i were in the cheap cheap market...i'd surely just get a Stevens 200 and go from that instead.
I was just looking at these last week, and spent quite a bit of time reading about them.
There are enough bad reviews that I think I'll stay away from it. It's a shame, because I like that style of stock and the dbm. (I could care less if it uses AR mags, becasue I don't own an AR, and would have to buy them anyway) The number one turn-off for me is the sloppy actions. I've read in multiple reviews that the bolt has up to a half inch of play when opened... that's A LOT. Working the action is rough, and the roughness is exaggerated by the sloppy bolt fitment. The second turn-off is the groups that people are shooting (factory ammo)... well over an inch at 100yds in most cases.
Again, this is what I've read... never shot one before.
Google "Mossberg MVP" ... there's enough video reviews and articles to choke something
There are enough bad reviews that I think I'll stay away from it. It's a shame, because I like that style of stock and the dbm. (I could care less if it uses AR mags, becasue I don't own an AR, and would have to buy them anyway) The number one turn-off for me is the sloppy actions. I've read in multiple reviews that the bolt has up to a half inch of play when opened... that's A LOT. Working the action is rough, and the roughness is exaggerated by the sloppy bolt fitment. The second turn-off is the groups that people are shooting (factory ammo)... well over an inch at 100yds in most cases.
Again, this is what I've read... never shot one before.
Google "Mossberg MVP" ... there's enough video reviews and articles to choke something
I am new to this forum and a new Mossberg MVP owner. I bought this gun mainly because it is chambered in 5.56 Nato. My boys and I shoot a lot of M193 surplus ammo in black guns and I thought a bolt gun would be a nice change of pace while using the same ammo. We are mainly plinkers with a 135 yd range set up in the woods on our property. Although I own a few higher quality guns like Remington 700 in .17 Rem and a Smith (Howa) in .222, I am certainly not an affcianato.
I agree with the comments about the fit of the bolt and who cares that it takes AR mags. However, the rest of the gun with respect to fit and finish is quite acceptable. Using the military brass, Dogtown 55 grain HP bullets and 21.3 grains of IMR 4198 it shoots 0.60 MOA at 135 yards from the bench. I thinks that is pretty reasonable for an inexpensive gun.
One comment I haven't heard mentioned is the rather long jump. I measured it at 0.090 inches in my MVP as compared to 0.070 in my Rock River AR.
I agree with the comments about the fit of the bolt and who cares that it takes AR mags. However, the rest of the gun with respect to fit and finish is quite acceptable. Using the military brass, Dogtown 55 grain HP bullets and 21.3 grains of IMR 4198 it shoots 0.60 MOA at 135 yards from the bench. I thinks that is pretty reasonable for an inexpensive gun.
One comment I haven't heard mentioned is the rather long jump. I measured it at 0.090 inches in my MVP as compared to 0.070 in my Rock River AR.
ElJay,
Welcome to the forum, and thanks for sharing your real world experience with the MVP. I haven't even handled one, so my opinion might change when that day comes 8)
Welcome to the forum, and thanks for sharing your real world experience with the MVP. I haven't even handled one, so my opinion might change when that day comes 8)
When I decided to get my son in to F-TR with me, budget was a major factor. At the least, he needed a .223 with a minimum of a light varmint barrel and a 1:9 twist to shoot bullets around the 75gr range ( ya, I know a lil faster twist is recommended). The problem is that most rifles that fit the criteria of barrel, caliber, and my budget are meant more as strict varmint rigs and their rifling is too slow.
Enter the MVP. Now, I always liked Mossberg shotguns, but have never been a fan of their rifles. And, I read the reviews, both good and bad. I took the chance, and I must say I couldn't be more pleased! I don't dispute that some folks may have legitimate problems with theirs, but my sons has been a gem. As for the action, it does feel a little rough, but it is also dragging the lil hinged lip that allows it to feed from AR mags back and forth. When engaging the locking lugs, it seems to go in to battery very smoothly and the bolt locks up firm. As for the stock, besides it being a little to thin in the check rest area for my liking, to me and my son, it has a great feel and handles very very. The palm swell fit his 15y.o. hand equallywell as my extra-large one.
Now for shooting: yeah, its no McMillan or fill-in-the-blank custom; but, those don't cost $500 either. The pics below or of two consecutively shot 100 yard five shot groups fired from prone with bipod. The one on the square of blue tape measures .242 moa on my OnTarget program. When I noticed through the scope that all the rounds had seemed to make one small hole, I immediately, without changing position, took aim at a small piece of tape that was over to the side of the target and fired five more. That group measures .373 moa! This was with 63 gr Sierra soft points and 26.4gr Varget, which was just what Hodgdon had listed in their data. It shoots the 77 SMKs and 75 Amax very well, too. Better than either of us are capable of taking full advantage of, for now, anyway. lol
For an entry rifle for someone to get their feet wet in F-TR, my experience is that you couldn't do better if your on a tight budget as I am. I am sure at some point his abilities will outgrow the rifles potential, and that's fine, cause it makes one heck of a coyote rifle, and we all need some excuse to buy new guns, right?
Enter the MVP. Now, I always liked Mossberg shotguns, but have never been a fan of their rifles. And, I read the reviews, both good and bad. I took the chance, and I must say I couldn't be more pleased! I don't dispute that some folks may have legitimate problems with theirs, but my sons has been a gem. As for the action, it does feel a little rough, but it is also dragging the lil hinged lip that allows it to feed from AR mags back and forth. When engaging the locking lugs, it seems to go in to battery very smoothly and the bolt locks up firm. As for the stock, besides it being a little to thin in the check rest area for my liking, to me and my son, it has a great feel and handles very very. The palm swell fit his 15y.o. hand equallywell as my extra-large one.
Now for shooting: yeah, its no McMillan or fill-in-the-blank custom; but, those don't cost $500 either. The pics below or of two consecutively shot 100 yard five shot groups fired from prone with bipod. The one on the square of blue tape measures .242 moa on my OnTarget program. When I noticed through the scope that all the rounds had seemed to make one small hole, I immediately, without changing position, took aim at a small piece of tape that was over to the side of the target and fired five more. That group measures .373 moa! This was with 63 gr Sierra soft points and 26.4gr Varget, which was just what Hodgdon had listed in their data. It shoots the 77 SMKs and 75 Amax very well, too. Better than either of us are capable of taking full advantage of, for now, anyway. lol
For an entry rifle for someone to get their feet wet in F-TR, my experience is that you couldn't do better if your on a tight budget as I am. I am sure at some point his abilities will outgrow the rifles potential, and that's fine, cause it makes one heck of a coyote rifle, and we all need some excuse to buy new guns, right?
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