More US Questions for Jason

[kory]

Jason,

I was playing with the US cleaner yesterday. I have the exact same model you do. When I turn the unit on with the beaker full of brass and soultion, there is a horrible high pitched sound caused by the US waves hitting the glass. Do you get the same thing? If I use the built in tank or a plastic beaker, it is a lot quieter, however, I'm sure you are aware of the downside to that method.

Also, to run the first 24 minute cycle, you do you keep restarting the cleaner after 480 seconds or is there some trick to keep it in running that long?

Thanks,
Kory

 

[jb1000br]

gotta restart it 3 times.

yea, that noise comes when the beaker sits in the divot in the tank...try some tool box liner btwn the beaner and tank.

JB

 

[kory]

Thanks, Jason. I'll give it a try. I suspect the liner will antennuate a lot of the US energy, but we'll see.

Thanks,
Kory

 

[nowler]

i am not sure if i am understanding your setup kory, but absolutely nothing should be touching the metal tank, as it will damage the US transducers which are attatched to the side of the tank.

if you are using a beaker, it should be suspended in a metal wire frame so that it is sitting in the water/solution in the tank and not actually touching the metal of the tank.

as for running for 24 minutes, this seems rather long. i cleaned 20 6mmbr cases tonight in my beaker in 5 minutes using half a teaspoon of cream of tartare and warm water. 12 6.5-284 cases take 10 minutes using the same solution.

hope this helps without trying to steal jason's thunder.

derek

 

[Travelor]

I too have a US cleaner that looks exactly like Jason's. Wonder if anyone has found a wire basket to use in it?

George

 

[jb1000br]

Travelor -- i have found a plastic basket at wally world that fits pretty snugly.

Some of the vendors on ebay sell baskets with the US as well.

I have had no problem sitting them directly in the tank, but will try a few things when i get a chance.

JB

 

[Travelor]

Thanks Jason.

 

[kory]

i am not sure if i am understanding your setup kory, but absolutely nothing should be touching the metal tank, as it will damage the US transducers which are attatched to the side of the tank.

if you are using a beaker, it should be suspended in a metal wire frame so that it is sitting in the water/solution in the tank and not actually touching the metal of the tank.

as for running for 24 minutes, this seems rather long. i cleaned 20 6mmbr cases tonight in my beaker in 5 minutes using half a teaspoon of cream of tartare and warm water. 12 6.5-284 cases take 10 minutes using the same solution.

hope this helps without trying to steal jason's thunder.

derek

Derek,

I'm confused now. Don't you put the shells and the solutions in the breaker and then place the beaker in the tank? If not, please explain.

Edit: I want back and looked at the pictures from Jason's article. Jason, are you filling the tank with water?

Another Edit: I read the article again real slow this time and I realize what I'm doing wrong. There is water in the tank. No wonder no one else complained about the sound. I'm an idiot. I hope I did not break my cleaner.

Thanks,
Kory

 

[jb1000br]

D'oh!!

Yea, the tank is full of distilled water, with the full beakers sitting inside.

ouch, i bet that was a horible noise Probably didnt help the machine any! directions said to always keep water level between the max and min lines :thumb:

JB

 

[nowler]

kory

my cases,or whatever i am cleaning) sit inside the beaker with the solution in it. the beaker then sits inside the tank in a wire frame which suspends it so that most of the beaker is in the tank. the tank is pretty much full of water.

so, in short, the cases and the cleaning solution are in the beaker, which is in the tank which is full of water.

ordinary tap water will do in the tank, it is just a medium for passing the ultrasonic cleaning action, the mini implosions, into the cleaning medium inside the beaker.

nothing at all should be touching the walls or base of the US tank itself. the tank has the US transducers attached to it, normally underneath. anything touching the walls or base of the tank affects how they work, and they are pretty sesitive little things. anything touching the tank will affect the us transducers and may or may not knacker them. my tank cost over 600USD equivalent and i am not gonna see if it wrecks them or not.

i'll take some photo's of my setup tomorrow. if you post me your email add or if someone can tell me how to post pics on this forum, i'll show you how my setup works.

derek

 

[kory]

D'oh!!

Yea, the tank is full of distilled water, with the full beakers sitting inside.

ouch, i bet that was a horible noise Probably didnt help the machine any! directions said to always keep water level between the max and min lines :thumb:

JB

It was a horrible noise, but I think I cleared the property of all mice, rats, and other varmints! I realized the instructions stated to have water in the tank, but I thought as long as there was water in the breaker to absorb the US energy, all was fine.

Interesting that in the pictures, you're not using the basket but Derek mentioned that nothing should touch the tank wall or base directly.

Regards,
Kory

 

[jb1000br]

kory -- my initial tests didnt use the baskets...my US remains un-knackered!

I shall seek a basket though...

in the meantime, a square of wiremesh,hardware cloth or shicken wire) cut to fit the bottom of the tank should work quite well.

JB

 

[nowler]

i am only following the instructions on the red warning label on the front of my machine. it explicitly says the following warnings:

1. don't run the tank empty
2. always ensure the tank is filled above the fill line
3. ensure nothing is touching the side or base of the tank whilst the machine is running. everything must be suspended in either a basket or a beaker....
failure to do as above results in voiding of warranty etc. etc.

it may well work with stuff on the bottom etc. but like putting your fingers in it when it is on, it ain't a wise idea.

 

[jb1000br]

Derek -- will have to review my directions

Thanks,
JB

 

[bglenn]

derek
go to this address and see how to post pictures: http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/6mmbr/vpost?id=498230
Glenn B

 

[kory]

Jason,

The US Cleaner that you have should have come with a basket -- mine did. I will try the protocol with the beaker sitting in the basket later today and see what the results are. I bet it will be just as good. If not, we may have to increase the 24 minute period just a little longer.

Regards,
Kory

 

[jb1000br]

Kory -- no basket with mine...some had them, some didnt.

JB

 

[gdragon34]

The beakers seem like a very good idea but it completely goes against what the instructions say about not having anything contacting the walls of the basin. Has anyone had any troubles because of this?

Also, are you guys then filling the beakers with solution higher than the water level in the US cleaner?

 

[kory]

Also, are you guys then filling the beakers with solution higher than the water level in the US cleaner?

In my case, I have to have the water level higher than the tank's max level if I want the brass to be standing up right. The cleaner I have,same as Jason's) isn't that deep. I don't think its really an issue.

Kory

 

[jb1000br]

Troubles...not yet

solution in the beaker is high enough to cover the cases, then a little more. Whatever end that has been above the water line, still gets cleaned just as it it were below.

YMMV,
JB