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Missed a cougar this weekend.

This weekend I was at an OHA,oregon hunters association)planting for a mule deer habitat inhansment project and after lunch I took off for a hike to look for the other bull shed I found a month ago.2 1/2 miles across the valley and about 200yds from where I found the first shed a very nice target jumped from its bed.I had all the things I needed to skin this cat but only having a single shot,open sight 22 for squirrls. The hole shot is as follows: It jumped up at around 50yds,I pulled up to shoot,Click dam forgot to cock it,cock,pull up to shoot,cat is around 75yds now slightly quartering away to the right uphill,I leed and hold high,crack.I seen the dust fly as my bullet hit the rock about 6" over its back.

Well its all she wrote.I reloaded fast and started running and yelling trying to tree it but she headed for higher ground faster than I could.And after all that I never found that other shed but another miss and a new memory in the score.
 
Austin,
Where I shoot diggers in Oregon, they have killed 9 cats this year in a very small area. The deer won't go up into the hills because of them.

Chuck
 
Austin said:
This weekend I was at an OHA,oregon hunters association)planting for a mule deer habitat inhansment project and after lunch I took off for a hike to look for the other bull shed I found a month ago.2 1/2 miles across the valley and about 200yds from where I found the first shed a very nice target jumped from its bed.I had all the things I needed to skin this cat but only having a single shot,open sight 22 for squirrls. The hole shot is as follows: It jumped up at around 50yds,I pulled up to shoot,Click dam forgot to cock it,cock,pull up to shoot,cat is around 75yds now slightly quartering away to the right uphill,I leed and hold high,crack.I seen the dust fly as my bullet hit the rock about 6" over its back.

Well its all she wrote.I reloaded fast and started running and yelling trying to tree it but she headed for higher ground faster than I could.And after all that I never found that other shed but another miss and a new memory in the score.

Just out of curiousity,
Did you expect to kill the cougar with a .22 at that distance?
Chino69
 
A 22? Rim Fire? #1 crippling or wounding any animal from the use of an underpowered firearm is not only unsportsmanlike it is downright cruel and in-humane. You should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to do it in the first place, and secondly for bragging about it here, or anywhere else for that matter.
 
I dont want to start any rifts but in my opinion and the numbers show this as well.Sence the use of hounds was banned years ago here in OREGON and WASHINGTON as well,the cougar populations exploaded and if wounding a cat,which I didnt) is the only shot I have,im trying to do my part.Iv shot countless coyotes out taking new born calves,they get up and run off.Do I spend my time trying to put it out of its misery.No. Cats,yots,other vermin are just vermin.You just need a tag for 1 of them.
 
Austin,
Any animal, varmint or not, deserves to be killed humanely and ethically; not wounded to crawl off and die. If you can't abide by that simple sportsmen's 'code', you have no business hunting.
Chino69
 
We as hunters need to do our best to hunt ethically and humanely. I understand that the population has exploded, so if your goal is to reduce it, get out there with a fawn bleat and call them in. In SD they are having great success with the lion season calling them in with fawn in distress calls. It's your judgment call on whether to shoot them or not, but if you're going to shoot, use something with enough power to kill it humanely. I've never hunted lions, but I'm pretty sure a .22 RF at 75 yds. would take a VERY lucky shot to be fatal. You've just educated a predator that will be far more cautious in the future. Is it ethical to shoot a lion out of season? That's your call. The ethics vs. legality issue is one that I struggle with. Where I hunt deer we frequently have the opportunity to use a vehicle for a rest with both feet on the ground, out of the vehicle. There are no other rest opportunities, and this is the most ethical humane shot. However, according to state law, it's illegal to use a vehicle to support a gun while shooting. Will I break this law if given the opportunity to take a more ethical shot? Every time! I don't consider it thumbing my nose at the law, but rather being mindful of the gift we have been given in the creation of animals to hunt for food and sport, and doing my best to hunt humanely.
Selmer
 
Just to let you all know I am in the legal limits in every aspest of what I did.A 22 RF is the minimum but still legal.The season is form Jan 1-May31 and Aug 1-Dec 31.PLUS Iv got a TAG. Im sorry to sound sarcastic, I didnt state my state regs.
 
Back in the OLLLLD days in Oregon, hunters would use 22 rimfire magnums when a cat was treed. With a lungshot, slowly but shurley would kill the cat. He would fall out of the tree when dead, deader than dead. No risk to hunter or dogs.
 
Once again I'm amazed at the ethics, or lack of, some people. You people live in a different world than the one I live in and I'm glad for it. Letting an animal die a slow painful death and rationalizing it by saying you are within your legal limits is disturbing. Your hunting ethics sound more like that of a reckless teen who never had a responsible mentor pass on the outdoor code most responsible hunters and sportsmen abide by.
Chino69
 
Remember what I said about Karma? Perhaps you do use your puny 22RF and get away with it this time, and the next, and the next crippling animals, and making them more dangerous in the process. Did you ever consider that one of those animals may just stalk you the next time? Sometimes the hunter becomes the hunted. That's Karma. What goes around comes around.

So the question is whose fault is it that you got ripped to pieces your's or the cats?
 
A 22 will kill a big cat provided there is proper bullet placement. However having said that it would require an exceptional shooter to put a 22 round in the proper place on a running target at 75 yards. A wounded cat can be a huge danger to humans as they may not be able to hunt their regular prey. Humans can be easier to stalk and kill. Personally I would not have taken the shot just for that very reason. Here in Canada big grizz and other dangerous game can be a hazard to your health while out hunting. It's better to let them go than take a chance on not putting the critter down. Just my two cents worth.

Cheers and Happy Hunting: Eaglesnester
 
Killed two in the past two years for New Mexico Game and Fish. They were depredating on this ranch and a neighbors. I wasn't hunting, it was "destroying" the two animals because they can't be transplanted as some would think. Putting a lion that has been forced to seek it's new territory close to humans, into another lions territory,because all there are so many) will cause a confrontation that is often lethal.
I find a fresh kill, stake it with bailing wire, and wait about twenty yards away, down wind, in the DARK. I set up my Ruger #1, seven mag, with a 3-9 scope, on a pile of milk boxes and focus it on the fresh kill. A lion will come back to a kill every night, between midnight and four AM, until it's consumed. During the day it will lay so close to that kill that if you are standing at the kill talking in a normal tone of voice, it can hear you!
Well, then I put a tiny alarm clock in my parka hood, lay in a lawn chair or the front seat of a pickup,if that's part of the barn yard). I wake up every thiry minutes, put my eye up to the scope and shine a spot light on the kill, then go back to sleep.
They were both lions that typically get into trouble with humans because they can't fight for an exclusive territory. The first was a two year old female that had killed nine sheep in a pen. Here little 80lb body carred a 110 lb sheep over a five foot fence. I shot here thru the heart from about sixty feet with a seven mag. She jumped straight up in the air and fell dead.
The second, last year, was a very old male who had worn down teeth, and had been kicked in the heard by a very large animal. Probably a horse. The fractured scull was just healing and is on my mantel. I shot him in the mouth from fifty feet away with a seven mag. The bullet travel down the entire length of his body. He got up and ran 75 yards into the brush down by a river. I waited a few minutes and went into the deep, thick brush after him with a flash light and a .45 govt. 1911. He was laying half in the river, dead as a wedge.
He's on my wall. He was huge. Game and Fish said he was the biggest they'd ever seen. I have a picture of him hanging from my porch. The top of my hat is about 6'4" off the ground. His nose is at my boot soles and his hind feet stretch a foot over my head!
Anyways, we have so many of them it's incrdible. Last week my neighbors horse was attached by one. Don't know if there's any credibility to my theory, but every two years we get another problem maker that can't find a new territory. That's the same time a mother lion takes to ween her young and kick them out. Two years.
Oh, well. Lot of lion stories after thirty years on horse back hunting in the Rockies with my buddies from NM Game and Fish. Great guys. All wild life biologists.
Jim Ratchford
 
Jim you must have some big cohonie's. Sitting near a cougar kill in complete dark. I believe it though. My good friend has a great story he tells of his 200 pound cougar. His miner friend enters his mine one day to see some cat eyes staring back at him, brushed some fresh dirt over the enterance, he got out of dodge. Went and called Bill, known for his ability to get cat's. Rushing to the mine with spotlights, headlamps a Kel-tec .40s&w and single shot 12 gauge with birdshot... They both enter the mine with spotlights blasting through the dark cavern. Knowing the cat is in there, because there were no tracks out of the mine. They come to a dead end, yet no cat. There is only one other place he could be, they thought. One small shaft that goes straight down, they enter the shaft. Nothing. Coming back out to the main shaft they checked behind a pile of rocks. There he was Bill blasted him in the face with the handgun at an incredible distance of 10 feet! Multiple hits to the face the cat is still moving so he grabs Jeff's single shot 12gauge and lets it rip. Killing the cat. It took two of these strong boys to load this cat in the pickup. He was around 200 pound Tom.
 
Well, I wasn't sitting in a lawn chair like I usually do, I was sitting in my truck. It was too cold that night. Had milk crates piled in the drivers seat for a bench with a sand bag on top. This was in a barn yard with other trucks and tractors.
However, for creepy feelings, when the bullet went in the mouth and down the length of the body, the big male got up and ran into some very dense brush that grows along the creek bank. I waited a couple minutes and then went into the pitch black brush with a flashlight and a Colt govt. model. After going about 70 yds or so, there was the lion, dead as a wedge, half laying in the river.
The record for mountain lion in New Mexico is 180lbs. got by the father of a friend of mine.
Jim
 

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