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Mauser rebarrel

Going to have my old 8mm Mauser “98” rebarreled. It does not shoot great now so I am going to do something different.
It is sporterized now with a decent stock and a Tunney trigger.
My goal is to do a nice shooting all around cartridge that my son could also take to the woods when old enough, so recoil is a concern. Something popular so ammo will be easy to find if needed.
My thoughts are either a 7mm-08 or a 308.
My current stable has the following
.223, .243, 26-06, 280ai and a 30-06.

Other suggestions?
 
I have built 2 Mausers so far.
One is my daughters. Large ring with 22" sporter barrel from E.R. Shaw chambered in 7X57 Mauser, wearing a purple Boyds AT-One stock. (i'm sure there is a special place in the afterlife reserved for people that would put a purple stock on a Mauser :rolleyes: )
Loaded up with 120gr Ballistic Tips, it should be an effective deer hunting rifle.

Second is a Whitworth Mark X rebarrel with a 24" E.R. Shaw. 1.5 contour. Chambered in 284 Win. B&C stock.

I now have 3 other Mauser actions to play with.

Personally, i'm for the 7X57 Mauser cartridge.
Gentle recoil, but plenty of energy for deer sized game with 120gr bullets.
Going after bigger game? Go up in weight on the bullet.
Plus there is the nostalgia thing with a Mauser chambered in a Mauser cartridge.
 
Going to have my old 8mm Mauser “98” rebarreled. It does not shoot great now so I am going to do something different.
It is sporterized now with a decent stock and a Tunney trigger.
My goal is to do a nice shooting all around cartridge that my son could also take to the woods when old enough, so recoil is a concern. Something popular so ammo will be easy to find if needed.
My thoughts are either a 7mm-08 or a 308.
My current stable has the following
.223, .243, 26-06, 280ai and a 30-06.

Other suggestions?
The 243 would be a good choice for a young shooter that will do everything short of large game. Nice light recoil, super accurate and easy to find when the Gov isnt hiding all the ammo.
My first choice would be 6.5x55 Sweden, but ammo is not easy to find.
 
Feed rails on Mausers are machined for the 7-8mm Mauser taper. Sometimes, calibers based on the .308 case do not feed well without altering the feed rails., which can be a little tricky. 6mm Rem., .257 Robt., 6.5x55 Swedish, 7x57, 8x57 all feed well. Calibers based on the .30-06 case also feed well, although factory rounds bigger than the .25-06 are usually too long and involve lengthening the magazine box, and perhaps cutting out the front of the opening in the bottom of the receiver (behind the lower lug abutment).
 
Well I was going to say 243 but you already have one. In the grand scheme of things it makes little sense to go from a 6mm-08 aka 243 to a 7mm-08. So outside of the terrible twist rate that factory 243 Win has been cursed with forever. Clearly if you are building from scratch you can have any twist you want to future proof anything that said I do not think 7-08 and 308 Win have ever suffered from that.

6mm, 7mm and 7.62mm???? You see were I am going? The 25-06 is like wise a light recoiling machine but has also suffered from stupid slow twist rate and until recently shortage of heavier bullets.

Given your choices ballistics are slightly better for 7-08 and recoil is slightly lighter but you give up the option of loading heavy bullets. I understand the 308 Win is not the 30-06 or a 300 Win Mag so it does have it limits on the heavies but there are times where they do make a LOT of sense.

Is this for a boy or a girl?

What is their build my oldest son is 6 foot 2 220lbs. and very fit and he was always a big boy just like me. My twins are 5 foot 6 and 135lbs at the age 19 and they were never large for their size they take after their mothers side. I would never build the same rife for those two different builds. For instance when my oldest son was 11 years old I let him shoot my 45-70 and it was not an issue for him at all it might as well have been a 243 Win. For my twins when they were maybe 14 I got them a Ruger American in 243 Win and hoped they could handle it. Their short limbs and super light weight being the issues.

Is this going to be a short 16-18 inch brush gun, tractor gun, truck gun, scout gun or are we talking 22-26 inch open country sort of situation.

Even though I really like the 7-08 in almost every way I own 2 308 Win rifles and both of them are heavy barreled one is F-TR rifles clearly no choice the other is an ancient Silhouette rifle. My Sons 308 Win was an attempt to check off his police, Army, Marine Corp "Tact-i-cool" boxes as a very young man and yes it is a Remington 700 the only Remington I have purchased in my 48 years on this Earth. Truth be told since you can load the 308 Win with everything from 110 varmint bullets to 208gr ELD/VLD's to 220gr. round nose ammo it clearly has advantages to 7-08 in flexibility.

Do you shoot F-Class? Would you maybe like to in the future with a young boy or girl? F-TR might be something to plan on?

So if no to F-TR all of that above said I would still probably lean towards 308 Win as boring as that sounds for sheer flexibility. If you reload you have almost unlimited choices for components and if you do not you again normally non-SARS-CoV-2 related situations you can normally find everything from mild to wild in factory loaded ammo and match grade ammo in 308 Win. Even given the last 500+ days I can find 308Win and 5.56/223 ammo easier than any other chamberings I have not seen any 7-08 ammo on the shelves in the last 500+ days in my area it was only 2 weeks ago that slugs rifled slugs reappeared locally no sabot slugs mind you and buck shot has not reared it's head yet. For the last 500 days it has been mostly birdshot, 350 Legend, 45-70 and 308 Win and even then no selection in brands or weight and only every other month. In fact I just got 3 325 count packages of 22LR ammo the other day first time in 500+ days that 22LR has been available to me locally.

So a lot to consider that you prob. would never have thought about 500+ days ago!
 
Well I was going to say 243 but you already have one. In the grand scheme of things it makes little sense to go from a 6mm-08 aka 243 to a 7mm-08. So outside of the terrible twist rate that factory 243 Win has been cursed with forever. Clearly if you are building from scratch you can have any twist you want to future proof anything that said I do not think 7-08 and 308 Win have ever suffered from that.

6mm, 7mm and 7.62mm???? You see were I am going? The 25-06 is like wise a light recoiling machine but has also suffered from stupid slow twist rate and until recently shortage of heavier bullets.

Given your choices ballistics are slightly better for 7-08 and recoil is slightly lighter but you give up the option of loading heavy bullets. I understand the 308 Win is not the 30-06 or a 300 Win Mag so it does have it limits on the heavies but there are times where they do make a LOT of sense.

Is this for a boy or a girl?

What is their build my oldest son is 6 foot 2 220lbs. and very fit and he was always a big boy just like me. My twins are 5 foot 6 and 135lbs at the age 19 and they were never large for their size they take after their mothers side. I would never build the same rife for those two different builds. For instance when my oldest son was 11 years old I let him shoot my 45-70 and it was not an issue for him at all it might as well have been a 243 Win. For my twins when they were maybe 14 I got them a Ruger American in 243 Win and hoped they could handle it. Their short limbs and super light weight being the issues.

Is this going to be a short 16-18 inch brush gun, tractor gun, truck gun, scout gun or are we talking 22-26 inch open country sort of situation.

Even though I really like the 7-08 in almost every way I own 2 308 Win rifles and both of them are heavy barreled one is F-TR rifles clearly no choice the other is an ancient Silhouette rifle. My Sons 308 Win was an attempt to check off his police, Army, Marine Corp "Tact-i-cool" boxes as a very young man and yes it is a Remington 700 the only Remington I have purchased in my 48 years on this Earth. Truth be told since you can load the 308 Win with everything from 110 varmint bullets to 208gr ELD/VLD's to 220gr. round nose ammo it clearly has advantages to 7-08 in flexibility.

Do you shoot F-Class? Would you maybe like to in the future with a young boy or girl? F-TR might be something to plan on?

So if no to F-TR all of that above said I would still probably lean towards 308 Win as boring as that sounds for sheer flexibility. If you reload you have almost unlimited choices for components and if you do not you again normally non-SARS-CoV-2 related situations you can normally find everything from mild to wild in factory loaded ammo and match grade ammo in 308 Win. Even given the last 500+ days I can find 308Win and 5.56/223 ammo easier than any other chamberings I have not seen any 7-08 ammo on the shelves in the last 500+ days in my area it was only 2 weeks ago that slugs rifled slugs reappeared locally no sabot slugs mind you and buck shot has not reared it's head yet. For the last 500 days it has been mostly birdshot, 350 Legend, 45-70 and 308 Win and even then no selection in brands or weight and only every other month. In fact I just got 3 325 count packages of 22LR ammo the other day first time in 500+ days that 22LR has been available to me locally.

So a lot to consider that you prob. would never have thought about 500+ days ago!
Definitely things I am considering. COVID-19 has made us all think differently. I do reload but if I were to give this rifle to my son some day he might not reload so available ammo is a concern.
He is only 9 years old at the moment. Probably will be a good size boy when all said and done with. But I do not want to scare him with recoil. He will most likely start out shooting my .223 when we get past the .22lr.

With reloading I can load some moderate rounds with lighter bullets if need be. The rifle in question won’t be light though. It has a Monte Carlo walnut stock and the barrel will be a heavy sporter.
 
Feed rails on Mausers are machined for the 7-8mm Mauser taper. Sometimes, calibers based on the .308 case do not feed well without altering the feed rails., which can be a little tricky. 6mm Rem., .257 Robt., 6.5x55 Swedish, 7x57, 8x57 all feed well. Calibers based on the .30-06 case also feed well, although factory rounds bigger than the .25-06 are usually too long and involve lengthening the magazine box, and perhaps cutting out the front of the opening in the bottom of the receiver (behind the lower lug abutment).
Good point on the feed rails.
 
I rebarreled a M98 last winter to 308 Win. It feeds OK, but takes some effort (not really smooth). 6.5X55 would be my vote.
 
I have been thinking about doing a short action so I won’t have magazine box length issues depending on what bullet I want to run
 
I agree with many others that have replied. Your ‘98 Mauser is a mid-length action, and can handle relatively long oal cartridges such as the 7x57 and 8x57. 7x57 is an excellent choice. Were it not for your son being young, and will be learning and needs modest recoil by virtue of his age/size, I would say 8x57. You mention woods, so I assume deer at some point. Both of these would be excellent for deer, and again, 7x57 would be excellent.
BTW what brand barrel are you considering?
 
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I agree with many others that have replied. Your ‘98 Mauser is a mid-length action, and can handle relatively long oal cartridges such as the 7x57 and 8x57. 7x57 is an excellent choice. Were it not for your son being young, and will be learning and needs modest recoil by virtue of his age/size, I would say 8x57. You mention woods, so I assume deer at some point. Both of these would be excellent for deer, and again, 7x57 would be excellent.
BTW what brand barrel are you considering?
I’m not sure I am in love with the current bullets being matched to the 8mm Mauser. Seem to be more suited to the magnums. The Nosler ballistic I have move away from for deer as they seem to be fragile. I find the accubond to do more of what I want on deer. A large exit hole.

yes deer will be on the menu for this but also just a great all around rifle. At one time I thought about a 35 Whelen but I just can’t justify it. I think a mid range caliber would be best for my needs.

How easy it is it to find 7x57 ammo bs the
7mm-08 or the 308?
 
I agree with many others that have replied. Your ‘98 Mauser is a mid-length action, and can handle relatively long oal cartridges such as the 7x57 and 8x57. 7x57 is an excellent choice. Were it not for your son being young, and will be learning and needs modest recoil by virtue of his age/size, I would say 8x57. You mention woods, so I assume deer at some point. Both of these would be excellent for deer, and again, 7x57 would be excellent.
BTW what brand barrel are you considering?
I am going to talk to my gunsmith to see what is available. Last time we used a Brux barrel for my 280ai
 
I’m not sure I am in love with the current bullets being matched to the 8mm Mauser. Seem to be more suited to the magnums. The Nosler ballistic I have move away from for deer as they seem to be fragile. I find the accubond to do more of what I want on deer. A large exit hole.

yes deer will be on the menu for this but also just a great all around rifle. At one time I thought about a 35 Whelen but I just can’t justify it. I think a mid range caliber would be best for my needs.

How easy it is it to find 7x57 ammo bs the
7mm-08 or the 308?
Availability of factory ammo is gonna be easiest for the .308, then 7-08, and last the 7x57 (275 Rigby). Midway lists 9 factory loads for the 7x57, and one in 275 Rigby. For the .308 Win they list 169 factory loads, and 32 for the 7-08. No comparison there. Hard to beat a .308 for being universal, and common.
 
I’m not sure I am in love with the current bullets being matched to the 8mm Mauser. Seem to be more suited to the magnums. The Nosler ballistic I have move away from for deer as they seem to be fragile. I find the accubond to do more of what I want on deer. A large exit hole.

yes deer will be on the menu for this but also just a great all around rifle. At one time I thought about a 35 Whelen but I just can’t justify it. I think a mid range caliber would be best for my needs.

How easy it is it to find 7x57 ammo bs the
7mm-08 or the 308?
The members of my deer hunting club killed over 500 deer, mostly with Nosler BTs. They are no too fragile for deer.
 
I was wondering where the "fragile" issue is coming from with the Ballistic Tips?
I have yet to recover one from a deer.
Even my 257 Roberts with the 100gr BT leaves an exit hole.
And i've heard of people taking elk with the 120gr 7mm BT.
I know that a 140gr BT out of a 280 Rem will give a pass through on a 250lb bear at 172 yards.

As for a pass down rifle, with my daughter, step son, grand daughter, grand son, if they don't want to learn to reload so they can shoot a given rifle, then it's on them.
 

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