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Mangey fox

Gary in MD

Gary in MD

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Had a fox come out across the field this afternoon that I had on trail cam pictures, really had the mange bad. Quick went in the house and out came the 240 Weatherby.
Thought I missed at first, he actually ran after a broadside hit. I watched him run up the field edge with my mouth wide open. I cussed the 240 Weatherby, Krieger, Berger, and my own crappy shooting ability!!
Found him about 75 yards from impact without hardly a drop of blood. I thought the 105 Berger hunting VLD would have busted him up, he was only about 130 yards. The 105s have worked very nice on two deer and I thought they would expand on something smaller, they are being spun by a 26” long 7.5 twist Krieger. Bullet went in and out without much expansion. Maybe a fluke?
Gary

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I had a mangy Fox around my house in Delaware. Couldn’t shoot it because of the neighborhood. Then my dog started itching and losing his hair. I took him to a vet. Got nowhere with her. Quote:”Unless your dog came in contact with the fox, he can’t catch mange.” Three months , $600 in testing and three vets later, I looked Vet #4 in the eye and said “Give me the GD Mange treatment.!” I gave it to my dog as prescribed and he was itch free and growing his hair back in a month.
Keep an eye on your dogs if you have any! Don’t let some holier than tho vet steer you wrong if they get it.
 
Gary in MD said:
I thought the 105 Berger hunting VLD would have busted him up, he was only about 130 yards.
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Their "theory" is the bullet penetrates a 2-3 inches then begins to expand. So it was about ready to exit the fox when the expansion would have started. Pretty light small animal for a bullet designed for larger animals. If you hit a deer on the shoulder blade or upper bone in the front leg, you would want the bullet to bust through that and penetrate into the vitals before it really expands. I think you got exactly what they designed the bullet for.
 
Gary in MD said:
Had a fox come out across the field this afternoon that I had on trail cam pictures, really had the mange bad. Quick went in the house and out came the 240 Weatherby.
Thought I missed at first, he actually ran after a broadside hit. I watched him run up the field edge with my mouth wide open. I cussed the 240 Weatherby, Krieger, Berger, and my own crappy shooting ability!!
Found him about 75 yards from impact without hardly a drop of blood. I thought the 105 Berger hunting VLD would have busted him up, he was only about 130 yards. The 105s have worked very nice on two deer and I thought they would expand on something smaller, they are being spun by a 26” long 7.5 twist Krieger. Bullet went in and out without much expansion. Maybe a fluke?
Gary

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You might want to try some 87 grain V-maxes. Violent varmint bullet at .240 Wby speeds.
 
joshb said:
I had a mangy Fox around my house in Delaware. Couldn’t shoot it because of the neighborhood. Then my dog started itching and losing his hair. I took him to a vet. Got nowhere with her. Quote:”Unless your dog came in contact with the fox, he can’t catch mange.” Three months , $600 in testing and three vets later, I looked Vet #4 in the eye and said “Give me the GD Mange treatment.!” I gave it to my dog as prescribed and he was itch free and growing his hair back in a month.
Keep an eye on your dogs if you have any! Don’t let some holier than tho vet steer you wrong if they get it.
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joshb, I`ve seen so damn many fox lately here in LSD ,I`m wondering if someone dumped a truck load off here. The coyotes are making their presence known also. And you still have officials saying coyotes are rare. BS ! I always ask why they have a hunting season for them if they are rare. Crickets. Vets in DE work for the state I think or at least their brain is controlled by the state. I could go on but you lived here so you know. Jeff
 
jepp2 said:
Their "theory" is the bullet penetrates a 2-3 inches then begins to expand. So it was about ready to exit the fox when the expansion would have started. Pretty light small animal for a bullet designed for larger animals. If you hit a deer on the shoulder blade or upper bone in the front leg, you would want the bullet to bust through that and penetrate into the vitals before it really expands. I think you got exactly what they designed the bullet for.
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I’m sure you are right, I guess I was hoping that because of that 7.5 twist that the bullet would be spinning so fast that it would “come apart a little quicker”
I’ve got plenty of lighter varmint bullets to get back to if I want to use the 240.
I learned something from my little experiment.
Gary
 
That expansion is what I would expect on a fox. Very small critters when you see them with no fur. I wanted a nice red fox hide for display many moons ago. The very best rifle of all my varmint rifles for literally no hide damage turned out to be my .300WM with 180 Partitions of all things! .30 caliber hole in and out. All others calibers absolutely destroyed the hide. Very surprised!!

Paul
 
Same rifle in 2019, before I switched out the old tired factory barrel. The 95 grain ballistic tips that I was using for deer worked fine for double duty.
All this experimenting is hard work, but somebody has to do it. LOL
Gary

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Sarcoptic mange is nasty and inhumane. A parasitic mite destroys their hair and they get sick and die a slow death from exposure.
It can readily be transferred from humans who have handled afflicted game to domestic pets or livestock.

Two years ago in February we were backpacking in NW Arkansas and came upon a black bear that was hours or days away from death. Very little fur left on it. It was one of the saddest things I’ve witnessed in nature. Were it not on federal land I would have done the right thing for that poor sow.

Hiked the same trail a year later. Scattered bones of a bear in the exact same spot.
 
It was 20 below zero when I shot this one. How it had survived is be on me.
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Back in 99 I seen what I thought was a black fox curled up in a ball sleeping in a snow bank. There was a strong wind in my favor. I walked to about 300 yds. I layed down and shot. When I got up to it, it was a Fox with just a few hairs on its body and a tuff of hair on the end of its tail. It's body was a bluish black. I very seldom take my phone when I leave the pickup. That was one time I wish I had it.
 
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