Any of you pro varmint shooters got the time, I need some advice. Around my parts the only varmints that are available for shootin are coyotes, crows and wolves. Probably never bother with wolves though. Im looking for a set up as in caliber and scope for long range say out to 6 or 7 hundred yards. I have a 6br 8 twist but shes a bench gun only (to heavy), and my current varmint getter is a cooper model 22 in 22 250 shootin 50 grain vmax. Its a 14 twist so cant shoot any heavy's. The crows here only show up in the spring and stay until fall and they are very smart little buggers so I need something that will reach out there. I am happy with the cooper and want to re barrel it to an 8 twist for the heavys so my question is what should I re barrel it too? 8 twist 6BR? 8 twist 22 250? .243? I already have all the 6br and 22 250 dies so it would be best to stick to one of them. Also im wanting to be able to make a click chart so I can hopefully range the target and click for windage and elevation. Would a huskamaw system be any good? Or any recommendations on a good long range varmint scope?
long range varmint gun
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If you are looking for an EXTREMELY flat shooting and very accurate L-O-N-G range varmint rifle, look at the 6-.284 shooting 105VLD's. Your barrel life will be short>>>max at 1000 rounds, however, there is little out there that can keep up with it. Don't heat up the bore with long strings of fire, use a slow powder from RL-22 to Retumbo, keep it clean and you will have an enviable long range rig..
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The br is a good accurate varmint cartridge but I would go with something a little more potent. Every time ive changed my varmint barrel it has been to shoot the heavier bullets and try to get more speed if possible. For the 6mm look at the straight 6mm rem, 6 Ackley, 6 x47, .243 ackley etc. in the 10t to shoot the 75-87. If you want a repeater then they will effect things some. The BC of the heavies really helps to fight the wind once you start to get out there.
I hear ya about the 6-284. I guess all it means is a set of dies but then there's the nightmare of trying to find powder. I have piles of varget and h4895. 6BR too much drop? I don't really need or care about Red mist power, just to be able to reach out there when them crows hold up at 600 yards like they always do.ShootDots said:
8 twist 22 250?jaybray said:I hear ya about the 6-284. I guess all it means is a set of dies but then there's the nightmare of trying to find powder. I have piles of varget and h4895. 6BR too much drop? I don't really need or care about Red mist power, just to be able to reach out there when them crows hold up at 600 yards like they always do.ShootDots said:
I had an 8 Twist 22-250 for prairie dogs. I was never able to get the accuracy (first) nor the velocity (secondarily) that I wanted. I worked and worked at it til my frustration level made me sell it off. If you have lots of Varget and H4895 and want to reach out as far as you can, with those powders, build a 6 Dasher. My 2nd Dasher uses 33.0grs of VV N540 with a 105 VLD>>>>3060 f.p.s. You CAN reach 3020 (or thereabouts) with Varget and maybe a bit more. It is NOT a 6-284 nor a 6mm A.I. BUT it is a formidable varmint rifle. Accuracy to the extreme, decent trajectory and "good" wind-bucking" ability. Remember this, there are ONLY 2 things that can overcome a drooping trajectory and make inroads into the wind>>those 2 things are SPEED and H-I-G-H B.C. You can achieve an "admirable" amount of SPEED with a 6 Dasher and decent wind bucking ability>>> But you will lose AT LEAST 300f.p.s. with the same bullet, against a 6-284 or a 6MM Rem. A.I. That is considerable. However, since you have an abundance of Varget, you will "sort of" be forced into a 6 Dasher>>> I don't think you will be disappointed though>>not even a little!
After reading your post I phoned my smith and right off the bat he recommended the 6 dasher also. He has 4 different reamers too. I guess its a no brainer as I have the powder, primers and lots of bullets. 6 dasher it is !!ShootDots said:jaybray said:I hear ya about the 6-284. I guess all it means is a set of dies but then there's the nightmare of trying to find powder. I have piles of varget and h4895. 6BR too much drop? I don't really need or care about Red mist power, just to be able to reach out there when them crows hold up at 600 yards like they always do.ShootDots said:
I had an 8 Twist 22-250 for prairie dogs. I was never able to get the accuracy (first) nor the velocity (secondarily) that I wanted. I worked and worked at it til my frustration level made me sell it off. If you have lots of Varget and H4895 and want to reach out as far as you can, with those powders, build a 6 Dasher. My 2nd Dasher uses 33.0grs of VV N540 with a 105 VLD>>>>3060 f.p.s. You CAN reach 3020 (or thereabouts) with Varget and maybe a bit more. It is NOT a 6-284 nor a 6mm A.I. BUT it is a formidable varmint rifle. Accuracy to the extreme, decent trajectory and "good" wind-bucking" ability. Remember this, there are ONLY 2 things that can overcome a drooping trajectory and make inroads into the wind>>those 2 things are SPEED and H-I-G-H B.C. You can achieve an "admirable" amount of SPEED with a 6 Dasher and decent wind bucking ability>>> But you will lose AT LEAST 300f.p.s. with the same bullet, against a 6-284 or a 6MM Rem. A.I. That is considerable. However, since you have an abundance of Varget, you will "sort of" be forced into a 6 Dasher>>> I don't think you will be disappointed though>>not even a little!
jaybray said:After reading your post I phoned my smith and right off the bat he recommended the 6 dasher also. He has 4 different reamers too. I guess its a no brainer as I have the powder, primers and lots of bullets. 6 dasher it is !!ShootDots said:jaybray said:I hear ya about the 6-284. I guess all it means is a set of dies but then there's the nightmare of trying to find powder. I have piles of varget and h4895. 6BR too much drop? I don't really need or care about Red mist power, just to be able to reach out there when them crows hold up at 600 yards like they always do.ShootDots said:
I had an 8 Twist 22-250 for prairie dogs. I was never able to get the accuracy (first) nor the velocity (secondarily) that I wanted. I worked and worked at it til my frustration level made me sell it off. If you have lots of Varget and H4895 and want to reach out as far as you can, with those powders, build a 6 Dasher. My 2nd Dasher uses 33.0grs of VV N540 with a 105 VLD>>>>3060 f.p.s. You CAN reach 3020 (or thereabouts) with Varget and maybe a bit more. It is NOT a 6-284 nor a 6mm A.I. BUT it is a formidable varmint rifle. Accuracy to the extreme, decent trajectory and "good" wind-bucking" ability. Remember this, there are ONLY 2 things that can overcome a drooping trajectory and make inroads into the wind>>those 2 things are SPEED and H-I-G-H B.C. You can achieve an "admirable" amount of SPEED with a 6 Dasher and decent wind bucking ability>>> But you will lose AT LEAST 300f.p.s. with the same bullet, against a 6-284 or a 6MM Rem. A.I. That is considerable. However, since you have an abundance of Varget, you will "sort of" be forced into a 6 Dasher>>> I don't think you will be disappointed though>>not even a little!
Wise choice! You will not be dissatisfied!
jaybray said:
When going after varmints, don't get too "power" heavy in the scope. 25 power is MORE than sufficient! Too much and field of view goes to nothing, light dwindles and "shakiness" is enhanced. The purchase of a scope is a personalized deal. Read, talk and LOOK at them before you make your mind up..
I know, the scope is the hard one. Im thinking a leupold with the cds turrets on it but not sure yet. Thanks for the tip on the power. I took my 6br with the fixed 36x on it one day. It was like there was an oven on high with the door open in front of me the mirage was so bad.ShootDots said:
i am lovin the 8-32 Sightron with MOA-2 reticle,,
Fast twist 6-284 for first shot connections. Wouldn't worry about throat life for this set-up.
6-24 S-III Sightron, 4-20 or 5-25 Burris XTR-II (New MOA reticle) would be some reasonably priced optics.
Consider your impact velocities and wind drift with the dasher in comparison to the 6-284.
Would use the Dasher for those distances all day long on pd's (multiple shots per dog opportunity), but not for crows, yotes and wolves...
6-24 S-III Sightron, 4-20 or 5-25 Burris XTR-II (New MOA reticle) would be some reasonably priced optics.
Consider your impact velocities and wind drift with the dasher in comparison to the 6-284.
Would use the Dasher for those distances all day long on pd's (multiple shots per dog opportunity), but not for crows, yotes and wolves...
I will be buying a chronograph later this week though.
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