Load Data for 6mm PPC

[Nick Caprinolo]

I recently purchased a 6mm PPC Benchrest rifle. I have been loading it with 65 grain custom bullets with 28.6 gr of N133. I am getting very good results with this load. When I purchased this rifle, I was told that it was the load used by the owner.

I got querious tonight and after looking in three different loading manuals and further research on line I find that this load is too hot, for this caliber and bullet combination. While using this load has not indicated any signs of over pressure I don't want to burn the barrel before it's time.

I realize that it is my responsibility to find a load that works for me, but I know there are many of you out there who have good load data that will save me a lot of work.

Nick

 

[Tim Singleton]

A little more info on the rifle
Action?
Chamber?
Brass you are using?

 

[A j shooter]

Bench rest crowd do not use manuals to load by.
PPC is a unique case I don’t think you can put to much n133 in a case ina custom action.

 

[Mikemci]

You may get more info if you post this in the 6ppc forum.

 

[Jefferson]

mine is 28.62 and this is not considered hot by us benchresters
Jeff

 

[riflewoman]

From this archive http://benchrest.com/archive/index.php/t-53497.html

Lots of guys shooting 28.6 Vhit 133 with 65 grainers.

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

A little more info on the rifle
Action?
Chamber?
Brass you are using?

Rifle is a Stolle/Panda, barrel is marked Borden Accuracy on one side and Hart #1 on the other.

Using Lapua 220 Russian brass with 262 neck.

 

[Tim Singleton]

Rifle is a Stolle/Panda, barrel is marked Borden Accuracy on one side and Hart #1 on the other.

Using Lapua 220 Russian brass with 262 neck.

Ok
You are hitting the low node shoots really well in a lot conditions
As you begin to shoot more you will find times that it won’t usually showing up in a vertical string.
As Jeff said you can’t put to much 133 in your rig.
Have a good time with it

 

[dgeesaman]

I got querious tonight and after looking in three different loading manuals and further research on line I find that this load is too hot, for this caliber and bullet combination. While using this load has not indicated any signs of over pressure I don't want to burn the barrel before it's time.

The 6PPC loads in the manuals are not for benchrest actions.

Even if the load manual used a benchrest action, they stopped well short of what it can handle because not all 6PPC rifles are benchrest actions.

 

[gpoldblue]

I recently purchased a 6mm PPC Benchrest rifle. I have been loading it with 65 grain custom bullets with 28.6 gr of N133. I am getting very good results with this load. When I purchased this rifle, I was told that it was the load used by the owner.

I got querious tonight and after looking in three different loading manuals and further research on line I find that this load is too hot, for this caliber and bullet combination. While using this load has not indicated any signs of over pressure I don't want to burn the barrel before it's time.

I realize that it is my responsibility to find a load that works for me, but I know there are many of you out there who have good load data that will save me a lot of work.

Nick

You are "warm" but not "hot". At one time,I shot about 28.3gn/N133. Ran out of that Lot of powder. Next Lot required 28.6 to perform the same as before. The person you purchased the rifle from probably tested and found the node with that Lot of powder at 28.6gn that satisfied him. There are several "nodes". Some shooters like to go on up to the next node. If you are satisfied,that's all that matters. Keep your bolt lugs greased and the bolt body lighty lubed.....she'll serve you many years.
Yes,that load is more than most manuals,but will not damage the rifle. Panda's are VERY strong actions.
Good luck...…...Dan

 

[R.Morehouse]

The best suggestion i got from EVERY ppc shooter is to invest in some wind flags. It was also suggested that i stick with 1 powder and learn it well. My chosen powder for the ppc is LT-32. I have more fun shooting my ppc's over flags than any thing else i shoot. Have fun with it ...........

Regards
Rick

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

The best suggestion i got from EVERY ppc shooter is to invest in some wind flags. It was also suggested that i stick with 1 powder and learn it well. My chosen powder for the ppc is LT-32. I have more fun shooting my ppc's over flags than any thing else i shoot. Have fun with it ...........

Regards
Rick

Rick

I have a bit of LT32 here. What load are you using for the PPC? Yes I have been told flags make the difference and I will be getting some soon, although I don't know what the guys at the range will think. I really am having fun with this rifle. Those little tiny groups are indeed fun. The group I shoot with just scratch their heads when I retrieve my target and casually lay it on the table for them to sneak a peek at.

Nick

 

[R.Morehouse]

29.1 lot#3. is my fav. I weigh powder not throw. I have a Harrells thrower and am not nearly as good as others with it. Not enough practice i'm sure. I have an electronic scale set up with auto throw & trickler that i check with a tuned M5 that i use for a hand full of guns. I am sure it is all not necessary for 100-200 ppc fun but it's here so......What the hell...

 

[A j shooter]

• Lt 32 start at 27.5 and work up to 28.5
• You will probably find 28.2 works
• Lt 32 is a little hotter then n133 so

 

[gpoldblue]

Rick

I have a bit of LT32 here. What load are you using for the PPC? Yes I have been told flags make the difference and I will be getting some soon, although I don't know what the guys at the range will think. I really am having fun with this rifle. Those little tiny groups are indeed fun. The group I shoot with just scratch their heads when I retrieve my target and casually lay it on the table for them to sneak a peek at.

Nick

For working up loads,you REALLY,REALLY need wind flags. A chronograph is also very helpful....tells you more about the internal ballistics and quality of your loads. Once you get your wind flags,you'll wonder how you ever did without them. Goups will be smaller & more consistant when you learn to read the flags.
Good luck...…...Dan

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

I use an electronic scale and then I check each load with a balance scale. I am anal when it comes to weight of powder and bullets. I separate bullets by weight also.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Preloading doesnt do much good. To shoot its best youll have to change it 2-3 times a day and its never right the next day so dont let it frustrate you. Sure you can stick a load of powder in there (any load you put in there will shoot better than most other guns there if youre not at a br match) but its going to change. Remember any load you see of n133 youll need to be at least 1gr under that load according to powder lots. Have fun!

 

[michaeljp65]

being new to PPC comp shooting as well, Dusty, you say, and i agree with you, that we should load on the day to suit conditions. Ive read this everywhere so i agree with it. But how is a newbie to know whether to increase his load or decrease his load for the days weather? Im sure its hard enough for a newbie to get his head around the changing wind directions/ conditions let alone worrying about his powder charge whilst reloading for the next round in 15 minutes to half an hour. Im guessing here, but if its getting hotter during the day we decrease the load? yes? and increase if it gets colder?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

being new to PPC comp shooting as well, Dusty, you say, and i agree with you, that we should load on the day to suit conditions. Ive read this everywhere so i agree with it. But how is a newbie to know whether to increase his load or decrease his load for the days weather? Im sure its hard enough for a newbie to get his head around the changing wind directions/ conditions let alone worrying about his powder charge whilst reloading for the next round in 15 minutes to half an hour. Im guessing here, but if its getting hotter during the day we decrease the load? yes? and increase if it gets colder?

Yes and yes for the last question (most times). The problem with shooting a very accurate gun is that you get used to a certain level of accuracy then when the conditions change you think your load fell apart so its tough. Reading on the net youd think your load would be the same the next day, it falls apart then youre thinking you missed some conditions. Its a hard battle learning to tell the difference.

 

[Tim Singleton]

being new to PPC comp shooting as well, Dusty, you say, and i agree with you, that we should load on the day to suit conditions. Ive read this everywhere so i agree with it. But how is a newbie to know whether to increase his load or decrease his load for the days weather? Im sure its hard enough for a newbie to get his head around the changing wind directions/ conditions let alone worrying about his powder charge whilst reloading for the next round in 15 minutes to half an hour. Im guessing here, but if its getting hotter during the day we decrease the load? yes? and increase if it gets colder?

There is no answer to this other than experience
As a newbie about 5years in it just takes the time under match conditions during the course of a day then the next day to experience hiw different it could shoot then
I really wish there was a better answer to give you