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Lil' Gun, 22 Hornet, and QL

I have found Lil' Gun and my Anschutz 1432 are born for each other. This is THE powder as far as my Hornet is concerned.

Being the type A person that I am I wanted to be able to use QuickLoad to compute data for this powder and cartridge. I contacted Mr. Ed Dillon of Neconos and he very kindly provided me with the code to use for this powder. But the QL computations appeared to not correctly predict the resultant pressures when compared to the 2007 Hodgdon loading manual.

So I contacted the man that developed the QuickLoad program in Germany for help. Here is his response:

" Li'lGun is extremely slow burning in the outer layer of the grain, let me say in the first 5 percent which is burning. This gives you an very soft bullet start. Quickload does not model this behaviour correctly, because all Closed Bomb vivacity data are false for the first 5% of burning cycle - they are disturbed by the closed bomb priming compound. QL uses Closed Bomb data, neglecting the first 5% which results in over predicting pressure for those tiny cartridges. Other powders with lesser or no surface treatment have the same burning rate at beginning,zero) of burning cycle as at the 5 percent burnt rate point. So they give far more better calculated results. The effect is neglectable for larger cartridges.

In the first year of introducing Li'lGun, I have had three canisters with totally different powders, with totally different deterrent coating - and initial burning rate. Loading results could not reproduced with these canisters.So I omitted to include Li'lGun into QL and wait some years. Then Hodgdon made some recalls - but I have my doubts they fixed it. The same is true for French Vectan Sp2
powder.

Greetings

Hartmut"

Both Mr Dillon and Mr Broemel are true gentlemen and I applaud them for their honesty and willingness to help. It appears that at this time we will have to forgo using QuickLoad with Lil' Gun.

George
 
Tried H110 and my gun shot around 1.5" groups @ 100 yards. I guess I never found a load/bullet that worked with H110 and my gun. Then Lil'Gung worked so I will probably stay there.

Thanks for the suggestion though,
George
 

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