Lee powder dispenser accuracy

[Marksman63]

Sold my RCBS chargemaster to improve my powder weight from .1 to .01 grain accuracy.
I arranged some VV N 150 45 grains loads with my 20 euros Lee powder dispenser in order to add 1 grain using GemPro scale and Omega trickler.
Amazing to see how accurate the cheap Lee is! All loads had .05 max spread! Incredible!

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Gempro measures in increments of .02...

Try throwing a longer extruded type powder in that LEE measure and I bet you'll be wishing you hadn't sold that ChargeMaster

 

[CharlieNC]

I like the Lee fine to get close, and then trickle to complete. Yea, the extruded powder is worse at a few tenths range. Just loaded 100 and got tired of over-shooting with the manual trickler so I ordered an Omega; should be here Friday. That's the part I hate worst about loading because if I'm going to the effort to trickle then it's going to be on the money; hate fat-fingering and over-shooting!

 

[Marksman63]

Gempro measures in increments of .02...

Try throwing a longer extruded type powder in that LEE measure and I bet you'll be wishing you hadn't sold that ChargeMaster

Right! .02

 

[Shrek]

I've been getting great results with my "cheap" Lee powder measure for years but just this week I ordered a new measure. A Lee classic with the same basic design but with a cast iron housing. I throw big stick powder mostly and I rarely feel the crunch of powder being cut. I set mine three tenths low and trickle up.

 

[LHSmith]

That's way more than incredible....it's unbelievable!

 

[Shrek]

LHSmith ,I throw H4350 , H1000 , and Retumbo mostly and have no trouble if I double bump the handle. It doesn't want to dump the Retumbo sometimes and I have to tap it but that's the extent of problems with my Lee Perfect Powder Measure. Maybe I happened to get a good one and this classic I have coming will disappoint but my experience with Lee products makes me think it will perform to my expectations. LHSmith , maybe you weren't holding your mouth right or something when you used yours .

 

[LHSmith]

Amazing to see how accurate the cheap Lee is! All loads had .05 max spread! Incredible!

^^^^^ This is what I was referring to......and the best BR competitors can do with their $350 measures is +/- .15 grain while the Lee beats that by a factor of 6. That's what's unbelievable!

 

[Iowa Fox]

I purchased one about 15 years ago. When I got it it looked so flimsy that I just left it in the box and put it in the cabinet never used. This spring I was way behind on loading and my RCBS Uniflow simply would not measure IMR3031 for my 243 loads. It would hang up and not even dump powder. I have other throwers but for some reason I decided to dig out the Lee Perfect. Wow!! It worked beautifully, no crunching or hanging up, most throws that I measured were within .2 (two tenths of a grain. It saved the day for me because I was down to two days and several hundred rounds to load before leaving for Wyoming. I was impressed.

 

[noload]

I give Lee a lot of credit for offering a nice simple product that works better than pourers that cost 4 X as much. The rubber wiper is the nuts.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

This is sure a first for me- ditch a chargemaster for a lee measure?

 

[Patch700]

Sold my RCBS chargemaster to improve my powder weight from .1 to .01 grain accuracy.
I arranged some VV N 150 45 grains loads with my 20 euros Lee powder dispenser in order to add 1 grain using GemPro scale and Omega trickler.
Amazing to see how accurate the cheap Lee is! All loads had .05 max spread! Incredible!

Your Lee measure throws N-150 to within ".05"?? Kudos to you sir...

Myself i could never manage to throw charges that accurate (thats a half a tenth btw) while sitting on a horseshoe...lol. Are you sure you don't mean .5? If we were talking H380 thats a different story.

Either way glad you like your Lee measure.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Amazing to see how accurate the cheap Lee is! All loads had .05 max spread! Incredible!

^^^^^ This is what I was referring to......and the best BR competitors can do with their $350 measures is +/- .15 grain while the Lee beats that by a factor of 6. That's what's unbelievable!

I think it was a max spread calculated from TWO carefully selected cases. The rest were assumed to be the same because the LEE measure is the best equipment available for the job

 

[Mozella]

Amazing to see how accurate the cheap Lee is! All loads had .05 max spread! Incredible!

^^^^^ This is what I was referring to......and the best BR competitors can do with their $350 measures is +/- .15 grain while the Lee beats that by a factor of 6. That's what's unbelievable!

I don't rub shoulders with serious BR shooters. Is +/- .15gr the typical spread? I would have thought less; perhaps a total spread of .15gr? Could that be it?

My carefully measured total spread varies from .20gr to .33gr (depending on powder brand/type) using a Lock N Load dispenser with .223 cases loaded to around 22.5gr. I consider that barely acceptable for non-competitive target shooting, but perhaps it's not all that bad.

 

[BoydAllen]

IMO the only way to determine load weight variance is to throw 20 charges, and record each of them, only allowing rejecting a throw before it is weighed. Anything else is just puffery or wishful thinking.

Once a fellow that had posted that he could throw a certain powder within +-.1 gr. PMed me that his method for testing involved throwing ten charges into a pan, weighing that, and comparing the total to what perfect charge weights would have been. People do funny things to try to make what they do look better, sort of like the group sizes that hare posted with groups that are obviously larger than the numbers indicate.

On a related matter, Lee has come out with a new fancier measure. Have any of you tried one?

 

[Patch700]

IMO the only way to determine load weight variance is to throw 20 charges, and record each of them, only allowing rejecting a throw before it is weighed. Anything else is just puffery or wishful thinking.

Once a fellow that had posted that he could throw a certain powder within +-.1 gr. PMed me that his method for testing involved throwing ten charges into a pan, weighing that, and comparing the total to what perfect charge weights would have been. People do funny things to try to make what they do look better, sort of like the group sizes that hare posted with groups that are obviously larger than the numbers indicate.

On a related matter, Lee has come out with a new fancier measure. Have any of you tried one?

agreed , i know Tubbs used to say he would test his avg charge wieght by dumping ten charges into a pan and if that equaled his target charge wieght X 10 and be within a couple tenths he would be satisfied that he was dumping within a couple tenths.. I never bought that theory for obvious reasons.

Also , lets put the original posters claims into perspective , One single kernel of N-150 is approximately.02 grns... This equates to the lee measure being able to consistently throw 40 grn charges to within 2 or 3 kernels...

That is an amazing thing indeed... Things that happen once or twice are more equated to a blind squirrel finding a nut as opposed to being avg. or repeatable .

 

[BoydAllen]

You're no fun.....nothing to get into and argument about

 

[260Ravage]

Let's not argue. Let's simply all agree that the Lee powder measure is,by far, the very best bang for thr buck.

 

[Patch700]

Let's not argue. Let's simply all agree that the Lee powder measure is,by far, the very best bang for thr buck.

I agree then lol... The lee powder measure is the very best bang for the buck.

 

[BoydAllen]

That's easy. In its price category it has no competition that I am aware of, so even if it was terrible, it would still be the best bang for the buck. Seriously, I have always heard good things about them, which I have no reason to doubt.