Things are sure different today because we use more accurate rifles with solid scopes to dial practiced yardage with. Not too far back we used a duplex reticle sighted in at 200, totally a different world for estimating longer shots.
Kracken.....you bring up a good point. Anyone shooting long today not using a laser range finder is totally irresponsible. Yes, you can do it with a topo map , calipers, and knowledge of an area but how many hunters are skilled in that, very few. My longest shot at and kill on a deer was 700 yards using this method. I would say I hit within 2 inches of my aiming spot but a lot of preseason work at that spot went into the end result. Now my range finder rides in my binocular bag . Whatever the max range is advertised on the rangefiner its usually only good too about half that distance on an animal.Things are sure different today because we use more accurate rifles with solid scopes to dial practiced yardage with. Not too far back we used a duplex reticle sighted in at 200, totally a different world for estimating longer shots.
PRS shooters miss too. I have shot PRS and have participated in the Long Range Operators' challenge have friends that are sponsored shooters. Not at any time did I say that PRS rifles are inaccurate, but most are not hunting rifles either.Nope that’s why I asked and even put that it was an actual question but thanks for the cheek
My understanding was that the first round wouldn’t be part of anything that actually mattered for their score/competition. That’s incorrect I guess?
Surprising to me that prs guys seem to do it fine with their inaccurate rifles and no wind flags
I get it. I do. I've shot animals( predators/varmints) at over 1K with rifles I can keep 4" groups with at that range easily. At that range, pulling the trigger and the animal moving at just about that same second can be the difference of a wounded animal or dead one. Because it's never happened to me makes me more confident. I will carry on doing what I'm confident I can keep doing. That's all we can do. Train for it and conquer it. The rest is out of our hands.All creators and posters need to concern themselves with their audience. If the audience is of limited skill, advice needs to be adjusted to fit them.
Nothing to see here for someone that can make a 100% solid hit in the exact right spot with a bullet of appropriate design going fast enough to do the job and leave a recoverable animal.
100% Dead On. Coyotes and ground hogs are what I'll kill at the loooongest ranges. Big game...ONLY when zero wind is present and likey 800 or less. I'm confident in some wind but not 100%. Not worth it to wound an animal I can get close to and anchor 100% of the time.My LR dilemma is the flight time. That steel buffalo in my profile pic is a 3 second flight time with 300WM. Thats enough time for an animal to turn, take a step, charge at a nearby grazing animal and now I just shot it in the ass.
My manThat’s why I love ARs. A elk or deer steps out at a grand, I jus git ta blastin’. One will eventually hit them.
What’s the difference in a deer and a yote when they are both overpopulated.100% Dead On. Coyotes and ground hogs are what I'll kill at the loooongest ranges. Big game...ONLY when zero wind is present and likey 800 or less. I'm confident in some wind but not 100%. Not worth it to wound an animal I can get close to and anchor 100% of the time.
I'd shoot coyote's just for fun. That's the difference to me.What’s the difference in a deer and a yote when they are both overpopulated.
I'd wound a coyote just for fun. That's the difference to me.
Try doing that good or should I say bad, out on the hunt.Here is some information on hit percentages from deep Creek 2016.
It is more of a personal issue I have with coyotes. Had them wipe out a litter of pups in my kennel once. Most killed and found a couple pups with guts tore wide open. Died in my lap. They kill every fawn they come across and need managing anyway they can be managed. Sorry if I don't have much humanity in me when it comes to there being shot whether killed or wounded. There all the same. Killing machines with zero rules. My adoption of that mentality applies to shooting them as well. If I hit one with any rifle I hunt them with, it won't matter where there hit, they won't kill another fawn again. They'll die eventually.What? It’s an animal too! I thought you were going to say that they are smaller and something from a deer cartridge type rifle will dispatch them pretty quick with any type of torso hit.
That's a sick thing. Kill em all I dont care. But do it right. They run on instinct. Causing unnecessary pain to an animal without empathy is not a good trait.It is more of a personal issue I have with coyotes. Had them wipe out a litter of pups in my kennel once. Most killed and found a couple pups with guts tore wide open. Died in my lap. They kill every fawn they come across and need managing anyway they can be managed. Sorry if I don't have much humanity in me when it comes to there being shot whether killed or wounded. There all the same. Killing machines with zero rules. My adoption of that mentality applies to shooting them as well. If I hit one with any rifle I hunt them with, it won't matter where there hit, they won't kill another fawn again. They'll die eventually.
Guess I'm running on instinct too when it comes to coyotes. I instinctively kill them whenever I get the chance. It seems to please most farmers, hunters and livestock owners. My comment about wounding them for fun was not a serious statement. I've wounded some trying to kill them. Did I care, Nope. It wasn't intentional either. I just do not care if it happens as a result of trying to kill them. Empathy has zero to do with it.That's a sick thing. Kill em all I dont care. But do it right. They run on instinct. Causing unnecessary pain to an animal without empathy is not a good trait.
No, humans have the ability to rationalize. We dont run on instinct. If your comment was in jest we can both delete our posts because that's not really a good way to portray sportsman and it will be gone.Guess I'm running on instinct too when it comes to coyotes. I instinctively kill them whenever I get the chance. It seems to please most farmers, hunters and livestock owners. My comment about wounding them for fun was not a serious statement. I've wounded some trying to kill them. Did I care, Nope. It wasn't intentional either. I just do not care if it happens as a result of trying to kill them. Empathy has zero to do with it.