Just finished NRA Basic Pistol Instructor course

[mousegunner]

and my next step is to take the Texas DPS course to teach concealed carry. However with constitutional carry being considered it may make taking the course moot to teach CHL. I can still teach the NRA Basic Pistol and do LEOSA recerts but I'm wondering if LEOs will skip tne LEOSA permit if constitutional carry gets approved in Texas. I would think that a LEO would want the national carry of LEOSA but time will tell.

Anyhoo just thinking out loud. Gonna wait and see what happens next. Thanks for looking.

 

[DRNewcomb]

It's unfortunate that so many people only take a basic firearms instruction class in order to get their concealed-carry permit. With so many new gun owners, who were not raised in a hunting/shooting households, this leaves Grand Theft Auto the major source of firearm training.

 

[K22]

Congrats on completing the training. Too many shooters today I see at the range don't have any training and are clueless regarding safety and / or marksmanship fundamentals. Some also believe that because they can hit a target consistently on a target range they they are prepared to use a pistol in a self defense situation.

There is a huge difference in learning to become a skilled target shooter versus learning tactical / self defense skills. I will go as far as to say that the two are not related at all.

Before one makes the important decision to carry a firearm for self defense they should take a course that is focused on the legal aspects of the use of lethal force, i.e. when it is justified and when is is not depending on the state where they reside. When you pull that gun in a self defense situation you are putting your future, your family's future, and your bank account on the line - you'd better make sure you know what you're doing.

I'm not oppose in any way to the basic human right of self defense - only those who are not adequately trained.

PS: Please don't recite the BS that goes: I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. If you know what you're doing you will avoid both. Sorry in advance for preaching but this is a hot button issue with me.

 

[farmerjohn]

Congrats on completing the training. Too many shooters today I see at the range don't have any training and are clueless regarding safety and / or marksmanship fundamentals. Some also believe that because they can hit a target consistently on a target range they they are prepared to use a pistol in a self defense situation.

There is a huge difference in learning to become a skilled target shooter versus learning tactical / self defense skills. I will go as far as to say that the two are not related at all.

Before one makes the important decision to carry a firearm for self defense they should take a course that is focused on the legal aspects of the use of lethal force, i.e. when it is justified and when is is not depending on the state where they reside. When you pull that gun in a self defense situation you are putting your future, your family's future, and your bank account on the line - you'd better make sure you know what you're doing.

I'm not oppose in any way to the basic human right of self defense - only those who are not adequately trained.

PS: Please don't recite the BS that goes: I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. If you know what you're doing you will avoid both. Sorry in advance for preaching but this is a hot button issue with me.

What he said!!!
The best weapon you will ever have is right between your ears. Use it to avoid ever having to use deadly force. But, learn how to use a firearm just in case... John

 

[chutem]

K22 is right on the mark. Thanks K22 for preaching this!!!
As to your instructor courses, congrats on completing the NRA course! Also, I will say, absolutely complete the DPS course. In most cases where constitutional carry is legal, the serious folks, will still want the issued permit in order to travel. This is also the case with LEOSA, LEO's will still need the qual course for their LEOSA(agency identification) to be valid in carrying in all 50 states. Can't go wrong with the DPS course, I think you will stay busy.

 

[mousegunner]

I should mention that I was an LEO firearms instructor and part of the quarterly training was Use of Force. I realize LEO training and civilian firearms training are not the same but I can emphasize the serious nature and responsibilities of carrying a firearm. I don't want people taking a CHL course thinking I'm just going to punch their ticket to carry, I feel I have a duty to instill the idea that continued practice and safe handling skills is something CHL holders should be doing all the time.

I really used to push that before I retired and sometimes I got a little too preachy but in the end its the person that will either heed your advice or brush you off. Still I can't believe for all the training we gave there were still unintentional discharges and claims the firearm went off when they touched it or thought it was empty, Where The Foxtrot were they when this was covered?! Don't get me started! Civilian students, I will have body armor as I've heard more than one instructor tell stories of being flagged at the range but in any event I look forward to it to pass on what I've learned over the years and hope it helps.

 

[Bronco302]

Back when Kansas passed concealed carry I took the NRA basic pistol and home defense courses over a long weekend. There were 14 people in the class and a full 60% of them couldn't keep their hits on an IPSC target at 7 yards. I was completely amazed that they thought two beginner courses would prepare them for teaching others safety, marksmanship, and when lethal force was warranted.

After Kansas passed constitutional carry you'd think the pool of CCL students would dry up, not the case at all. There are still plenty of people who want the knowledge and training that a GOOD class imparts to their students. Go ahead and get your creds you won't be sorry.

 

[Downhill]

I recommend the DPS course. You will be among the state's finest.

 

[Outrider27]

For many years I was certified to teach Basic Rifle Marksmanship, Basic Pistol Marksmanship and the home firearms defense course. Just as a matter of interest, you will probably find, as I did, that you, as the instructor, learn something new most every time you teach a class - one or more of your students will ask some question in a way that puts a different slant on some item, furthering both your and their understanding of some part of the subject matter.

 

[pirate ammo]

And in Texas, if you have the CHL you still fill out the 4473 but you bypass the FBI check.

 

[Rsadams]

I honestly don't see Constitutional carry passing.... Texas is usually in the black for it's budget but I am not sure about now.... I don't see them doing anything that will cost them money for awhile... We might even get Casinos which I never thought would be in Texas in my lifetime.... BUT I could be completely wrong...

 

[Rsadams]

It's unfortunate that so many people only take a basic firearms instruction class in order to get their concealed-carry permit. With so many new gun owners, who were not raised in a hunting/shooting households, this leaves Grand Theft Auto the major source of firearm training.

I work at a gun range and have seen some pistol targets that look more like buck shot patterns at long distance... Now with the ammo problems I can tell you for a fact people are not shooting , only the die hards...The majority of my shooters anymore are myself and my skeet shooting buddies who shoot competition skeet and trap... Honestly we are starting to get worried that we might have to stop doing that because we can't even get shotgun primers... Last year or the year before we ordered 2000 lbs of Remington STS shot for our private needs but now we are not sure that will ever happen again...

Stuffs still out there for pistol , rifle and shotgun but you have to basically be a private detective to get deals on stuff and the gas and other added cost bring the good prices up when added into the cost of a box of ammo... People say well it's your fault for not stocking up but ALOT of us can't afford a lifetime supply of everything , you may have a couple of years worth but that's not a lifetime supply... I think it will get better in time , what the gun grabbers want and what they get after all the law suits are two different things...

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

Looks like it is going to pass. I read the law. Law on 'flashing' your handgun is very confusing. Appears to be a misdemeanor. Also, I could not tell if it legalizes 'open carry'. I think one will be able to openly carry in holster, assuming individual is not otherwise prohibited for xyz reasons. These comments are educated guesses only and I am not stating these are accurate. Only a quick read of the proposed law.