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Jard Trigger with savage?

I replace the trigger on my A17 with the JARD, big improvement, It's a little pricy but what the hey, shoot pretty nice now.
 
MikeMcCasland said:
Otis, I've got one of the new 6oz Jard's installed on a .308 Savage. I'll bring it this weekend if you'll be shooting.
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Mike, I am anxious to hear the story on this new Jard Trigger. - I have several Rifle-Basix SAV-2's and I'd like to know from someone using the new Jard how they perform as well as both the good & bad (as applicable) before I take a $227.45 plunge for a trigger.

Thanks Much - Ron -
 
LA50SHOOTER said:
Mike, I am anxious to hear the story on this new Jard Trigger. - I have several Rifle-Basix SAV-2's and I'd like to know from someone using the new Jard how they perform as well as both the good & bad (as applicable) before I take a $227.45 plunge for a trigger.

Thanks Much - Ron -
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Hey Ron,

I bought the 6oz model the week they released. It's a decent trigger, better than factory for sure, but it's a far cry from a Jewell or Bix etc. I don't have a pull gauge, but I'd guess mine is around ~10oz. I've set it lighter, but had it fail on me twice during matches (firing pin would follow on bolt close); not fun pulling a trigger apart while you're supposed to be shooting for record.

The trigger shoe is also massive and rounded; also has a decent bit of side to side play. It also won't allow for use of a safety on a non-accutrigger action (I think they now make a safety you have to pay $50 more for).

I was using this Savage to shoot FTR while waiting for a Panda to get built up for comp. Now that it's done, and I have another on the way, I'll probably never shoot it again in competition if I can avoid it.

The gun is accurate, the triggers just don't get light enough for me to get comfortable behind them...or if they do get light enough, they aren't reliable enough.

There's a big ~10 page thread about it over in the general section. Got a few folks other than myself that have tried it. Seems to be a mixed bag. I will say, don't expect it to be a Jewell/Bix/Flavio/Trigger Tech.
 
MikeMcCasland said:
Hey Ron,

I bought the 6oz model the week they released. It's a decent trigger, better than factory for sure, but it's a far cry from a Jewell or Bix etc. I don't have a pull gauge, but I'd guess mine is around ~10oz. I've set it lighter, but had it fail on me twice during matches (firing pin would follow on bolt close); not fun pulling a trigger apart while you're supposed to be shooting for record.

The trigger shoe is also massive and rounded; also has a decent bit of side to side play. It also won't allow for use of a safety on a non-accutrigger action (I think they now make a safety you have to pay $50 more for).

I was using this Savage to shoot FTR while waiting for a Panda to get built up for comp. Now that it's done, and I have another on the way, I'll probably never shoot it again in competition if I can avoid it.

The gun is accurate, the triggers just don't get light enough for me to get comfortable behind them...or if they do get light enough, they aren't reliable enough.

There's a big ~10 page thread about it over in the general section. Got a few folks other than myself that have tried it. Seems to be a mixed bag. I will say, don't expect it to be a Jewell/Bix/Flavio/Trigger Tech.
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Thanks Mike - Much appreciate that honest evaluation. - Like yourself I'm looking for a reliable trigger (like a Jewell) that can be set to a light pull weight to use in competition. - And from what I'm seeing No one has filled that bill & met the expectations of competition shooters for Savages. - I'm still waiting for someone to build an honest to goodness 2-6 oz. trigger for the Savage platform as I have a few rifles built on the model 12 Target action and one 112 Magnum. - I guess for now I'll stick with the SAV-II set at about 8 oz. (for reliability sake). - You've told me what I need to know & I do appreciate it. - No more Savages for me because of the trigger availability. - One spends the money on the action, has it single-pointed by a good gunsmith along with the bolt bushed & double-sleeved & were into it just shy of what a custom action costs and mediocre triggers to deal with.

Again, I appreciate your candid and timely response back. - Ron -
 
Does anyone know why someone doesn’t make a good trigger for a Savage? I’d love a trigger that could get to 2oz or less
 
BAS73 said:
Does anyone know why someone doesn’t make a good trigger for a Savage? I’d love a trigger that could get to 2oz or less
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I have one on a Savage 12 single shot.
Fred Morreo ( sharp shooters supply) used to make them but for some reason stopped, he would only sell them if he timed and trued your action and installed it when he did the work.
Breathe on it and it breaks like a piece of fine crystal.
 
Rjtfroggy, I think your answer contains the reason for the Savage trigger problem. The whole system is so unrefined to start with that to correct it you must address it as a whole not just one past of it. The old saying you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear applys. However, given its like of refinement it can deliver some amazing results. Shoot it and enjoy it but to me it does not represent a place to add additional investment too. Kinda like that fast 5 ft 7 165 running back in the NFL, he sure is fun to watch for the 4 or 5 games he survives but not a great idea to build a team around him.
 
Jeffppc, Savage can not make a trigger with out a safety PERIOD, liability would be astronomical.
Most are asking for a low poundage trigger or ounces also a great liability, probably why no one makes one, they don't want to play with out a safety.
Savage PTA's will go down to 6 oz. even a little lower if you are willing to spend the time playing with it, most aren't. I have a PTA with a 6 oz. still has the red blade on it and the original springs and safety, works fine.
Way too many guys bad mouth Savage but their products brought many into the game and the Accu-trigger taught many shooters how to pull a trigger correctly, squeeze not jerk.
Personally I have 13-14 of them and each one serves it's purpose, and now some just take up space, but they are paid for and cost nothing to keep.
 
I have two Savage 12 Benchrest. One 6.5X47 with a Shilen HV barrel, Rifle Basix set at four ozs. and a bolt lift kit. On a good day it shoots .1 and .2s and on any other day .3 and .4s. The other is six weeks old in 6mm BR. Rifle Basix at 6 ozs. and a bolt lift kit. I have only fired a couple hundred rounds working up loads. It is already aging in the .3s. How much more do you want out of a $1500 rifle. The best part I didn't have to wait a year on a custom.
 
I just got it in and holy cow. I had done some voodoo to my factory accutrigger to get pull weight under 2lbs and to get the break to be clean but I was never really happy with that as when outside the chassis, any bolt close causes the striker to drop so it's not possible to safety test it outside the chassis. Anyone who'd ever shot my rifle commented on how light and crisp the trigger was after you got the center blade back and that was partly accomplished by making it ride the razors edge of safe/not-safe. People are not used to standard Savage triggers not being a little heavier than they could be. You can try to find a Savage Target Action trigger but that's fraught since they don't just sell them (last I checked they were finicky about direct sales of any fire control group parts to non-FFL's). The world of aftermarket triggers for savage has never been that great either and it's all because of the weird Savage sear and the side locking setup (most bolt action rifle sears are under the bolt, Savage 10's sear are to the right of the bolt). If you can't replace the sear then the trigger will never be much better than the factory trigger.

Well, Jard Inc. some time back introduced their Savage 3-lever drop-in trigger which does include the sear and HOLY CRAP is it good. I mean, out of the box it's got some long creep like Joe Biden in a preschool but once you adjust the sear engagement and the over travel it stands up and shines. Then you get to the pull weight adjustment and you remember what a really really good trigger with no overtravel, no take-up, no creep and a glass rod break feels like.

I got the 13-18oz model as I would like it under a pound but not that far under. Right now it's set at max and it still feels pretty light. I'll probably take a few more ounces off the pull weight after I have some time to get to be friends with the new trigger but I'm pretty happy right now.
 
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Old Navy said:
I have two Savage 12 Benchrest. One 6.5X47 with a Shilen HV barrel, Rifle Basix set at four ozs. and a bolt lift kit. On a good day it shoots .1 and .2s and on any other day .3 and .4s. The other is six weeks old in 6mm BR. Rifle Basix at 6 ozs. and a bolt lift kit. I have only fired a couple hundred rounds working up loads. It is already aging in the .3s. How much more do you want out of a $1500 rifle. The best part I didn't have to wait a year on a custom.
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Now think about something before you buy another. For 1500 to 1800 there have been some good used custom br rifles for sale on here in the last 3 months. They have 2 oz Jewells .
 
Jard built me the 1st Bottom bolt release trigger assembly,I Have a SSS Competition trigger, a Rifle Basic II, The Jard is Better,Think they go for $219
 
I had a SAVII and got tired of messing with it. Spent the $$$ on the Jard, now if I could sneak in one decent day to get some range time. On the workbench it seems the Jard is a dandy.
No it’s no Jewel or Trigger Tech, the sear on the Savage rifles are odd compared to a Remington.
I have a couple othe rifle basix triggers and they are fine. This one needs to find a new home so I can order another Jard.
 
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