Is this guy doing it the right way???

[MFG_BOP]

came across this video on youtube but, for me, it doesn't look like the
blueprint job has been made the right way. correct if I am wrong.
Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFRkTuocEgI

 

[Preacher]

Strange way of doing stuff, and a lot of dry cutting to boot.....

 

[ShootDots]

came across this video on youtube but, for me, it doesn't look like the
blueprint job has been made the right way. correct if I am wrong.
Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFRkTuocEgI

I am NOT a machinist, neither have I even operated a machine. However, from my perspective, he seems to make sense and accomplish what he is after.. But, that is why I leave that stuff up to my 'smith and whoever I buy a custom action from.

 

[hogpatrol]

Ask 20 machinists how to do a job and you'll get 20 different answers and every one is the best way.
As far as "dry" cutting and finishes, it depends on the feed rate, material and type and grind of the cutting tool. You can get pretty close to a 64 finish dry.

 

[shortgrass]

Ask 20 machinists how to do a job and you'll get 20 different answers and every one is the best way.
As far as "dry" cutting and finishes, it depends on the feed rate, material and type and grind of the cutting tool. You can get pretty close to a 64 finish dry.

That is a true statement.

 

[ridgeway]

IMO, none of what he does makes any sense what so ever, LOL! Threading a tenon supported by a live center? Come on!

 

[OIF/OEF]

Is it normal to take that much material off the face of the action for truing. Couldn't you just square it up and nothing more without going so far. I have no idea about truing an action it just seemed he took a lot off

 

[Gabe22BR]

came across this video on youtube but, for me, it doesn't look like the
blueprint job has been made the right way. correct if I am wrong.
Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFRkTuocEgI

I wouldn't do it that way...

 

[Gabe22BR]

Threading a tenon supported by a live center? Come on!

And it ran out 6" on top of that!!

 

[savagedasher]

I wouldn't want him to do my gun work. Back in the DAY that was top of the line. Larry

 

[Eddie Harren]

He obviously special ordered a barrel whose bore was concentric with the OD.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Too many people doing gun work these days. But thats at least an example of chambering between centers which if you read on the innernet cant possibly work. Main thing im wondering is whats he so scared of? Is yakima a bad place? Ive never chambered a barrel with an open gun on my side.

 

[aj300mag]

Is it normal to take that much material off the face of the action for truing. Couldn't you just square it up and nothing more without going so far. I have no idea about truing an action it just seemed he took a lot off

The chip looks wider than normal due to the geometry of his tool bit. He probably took less than .005" off of the face of the action.

 

[Jay Christopherson]

Everyone loves their own flavor. Personally, I don't think it's about the "right" way, though I think there are "better" (more efficient mostly) ways than others. But in the end, it's all about results on paper and what your goals towards those results are. He's chambering and truing a Remington action on what looks like a sporter contour (maybe slightly heavier), fluted barrel. I don't think benchrest or tiny X-ring groups at long ranges are his main concern.

 

[Gappmast]

Ask 20 machinists how to do a job and you'll get 20 different answers and every one is the best way.
As far as "dry" cutting and finishes, it depends on the feed rate, material and type and grind of the cutting tool. You can get pretty close to a 64 finish dry.

I disagree with Hogpatrol. Ask 20 machinists and you will get at least 24 answers

 

[aj300mag]

Ask 20 machinists how to do a job and you'll get 20 different answers and every one is the best way.
As far as "dry" cutting and finishes, it depends on the feed rate, material and type and grind of the cutting tool. You can get pretty close to a 64 finish dry.

I disagree with Hogpatrol. Ask 20 machinists and you will get at least 24 answers

Nine out of ten of the voices inside my head told me to stay home and clean my guns today.

 

[noload]

Polishing the threads with sand paper, then threading the action on against the shoulder, without cleaning the grit off the threads was priceless, talk about galling.

 

[SDWhirlwind]

Sorry, I could only make it to 22 minutes and change. Grabbed the 10mm out of the desk drawer but then changed my mind!!!!! Wonder how far he made it through the book 101 safety tips and do nots when working with rotating objects??? What is his intent, fascination or desire to keep grabbing that spinning barrel? My guess is to support it and stop chatter? Although I cannot hear anything? Around 21 minutes it shows the tenon threads from a bit different angle and the chatter visible in them is horrible!!!! Or my eyesight is horrible?? Must be his rigid setup? Sadly I must admit I do my barrel work between centers, BUT, not like he does and while I knowj it is not ideal I have ended up with some pretty durn good shooting rigs, thousands of dead SD pdogs and several hundred non pheasant eating coyotes for proof. Only 2 guys I have ever watched do a complete barrel job always did it that way. One is long gone but built hundreds of rifles that way. The other still does it that way and accuracy always great.

I know dialing in a chucked up blank to the tens of thousandths is 'the real gunsmith way' but I am not a real one.lol I would be willing to bet most of what I own that half or more of those so called "within .0002" barrel jobs aren't!!!!! On the net nobody especially a well known smith would ever admit to such or the internet commando's would eat him alive and break him with a boycott!!! If you cannot use sub .0002 in your conversations with customers you tain't chit in todays internet driven society. 95% of those who order a custom build can't, won't or never will be able to shoot the difference between a .0002- chamber and one that is .001! I know I couldn't!! I just cannot justify nor afford a $300 dial indicator just to build my own stuff and then not know if it would be worth it for the accuracy I MIGHT gain.

To each his own and now you all know what kind of shade tree, hobby, self taught machine hack I am. I take pride in destroying a $300+ blank that Bartlein, Krieger or Boots coddled to get 'just right'!!!! :-[

In fact I sent 25-30 pdogs to a 'special place' just this afternoon with one of my crudely construed fire sticks!!

 

[hogpatrol]

Ask 20 machinists how to do a job and you'll get 20 different answers and every one is the best way.
As far as "dry" cutting and finishes, it depends on the feed rate, material and type and grind of the cutting tool. You can get pretty close to a 64 finish dry.

I disagree with Hogpatrol. Ask 20 machinists and you will get at least 24 answers

LOL, Yeah, and those 24 might be from ONE machinist. ;D ;D ;D

 

[shortgrass]

My question is, why would anyone waste their time watching U-Tube gunsmithing videos? If you really want to know, get proper instruction, and not from the hack down the road who claims to be a 'gunsmith'.