Yes but you can hit a target that you aim at!
Is the M1 carbine a hopeless case?
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I was always fascinated for some perverse reason by the 30 Carbine. As stated above I had the Ruger revolver and I had a Marlin lever action and also several M1 Military and Civilian models. The only one I have left now is an M2.
I searched for a contender single shot barrel but it never appeared. Seems to me it fit a very small nitsch pretty well and it's fun for plinking. Back in the day ammo was cheap and plentiful.
I searched for a contender single shot barrel but it never appeared. Seems to me it fit a very small nitsch pretty well and it's fun for plinking. Back in the day ammo was cheap and plentiful.
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Yes but you can hit a target that you aim at!
You are aware that better barrels can be had in 7.62x39 than China crap right?
Buy why?
What I know for sure is that in May 1941 6 guys at Winchester were task to design a rifle to military specifications. By September 1941 the rifles was accepted and orders were placed. In the next 4 years 6 million rifles were produced, and by 1944 changes were ordered to about 8 parts for reliability improvements. One guy Williams was removed from the project for being disruptive and brought back at the very end to adjust his patented Tapit.
What a remarkable task!
All I did was make sure that my rifles were inspected and where needed updated with GI parts to the 1944 specifications and went a different direction to try and improve ballistic performance. This was done at a very low cost, (except for load development)and my 2 rifles at the age of 83 handle and shoot like new. NO, rattles, tings or failures with long shot strings. Smart snappy actions.
If you are satisfied with 1940’s era barrel mfg quality and everything that goes with it - rock on.
I choose to spend my dollars on better than that…
Why?
I've had zero issues with the Missouri Bullets.
Along with the fact that they are readily available to me and reasonably priced.
Nobody near me has Berry's in stock, so I'd have to order them and get them shipped, driving up the cost.
for MBC.I never shot anything chambered in 7.62 x 39 that peaked my interest. I won my Russian guns for 10 bucks in raffles.
DShortt
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Discussing firearms designed for Military Service/emphasis on function and comparing that to precision shooting is an exercise in futility.
The firearms utilized are inherently different for a reason.
The ultimate performance bar is vastly different.
Now, if one enjoys looking for abnormalities then have at it.
But that's the exception. Not the Rule.
The firearms utilized are inherently different for a reason.
The ultimate performance bar is vastly different.
Now, if one enjoys looking for abnormalities then have at it.
But that's the exception. Not the Rule.
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Some are known be be better than others or ‘more likely to be’ better.
This one on the bottom don’t really got what it takes to hang with the barrel above it.
A guy can easily do gooder if he wants
An alternative to messing up your original M1 carbine would be to purchase one of the millions post war clones made in the 1950-60s with cast receivers and mostly other USGI surplus parts. There was a huge cottage industry of them here in the Miami area, the largest of which was the Universal company. The early ones were exact clones of the military model and would be cheaper to acquire and no one would object to your accurizing it with a quality barrel and trigger work. I'd love to see someone build an improved target version on that platform.
You do realize all those clones were crap! My rifles are still ALL GI parts correct to the rebuild order.
The new synthetic stock can go back to its original in a minute.
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Thanks to Bench Rest and Precision Shooting we now have wonderful new military cartridges, so there is some relative discussion. We have 3 generations of AR's in my hoise
Because of the mutual interest from a tactical standpoint we went from before my time a 4" POS service rifle, to a 1" service SPR now 1/2" SPR/DMR.
In the world of body armor imagine the advantage that an extra couple hundred yards on nasal cavity accuracy gives an operator.
Already did! Had to wait 50 years for them to develop it.
I was addressing the OP's original concern about messing up his original USGI M1 carbine with this as an alternative. It ain't all about you!
You do realize the first ~80k Universal were made 100% to and with mil-spec parts and specifications, identical to the ones made during/for the war. Identical. So you've just told us every military M1 carbine is crap. My Universal, S/N 235xx, inherited from my dad, is anything but crap I can assure you.
Unfortunately I've never seen one that can run 250 rounds without a failure. In fact I've never seen a demonstration of the newly manufactured M1's the didn't have a failure.
In my area in the used Carbine market it's very likely that the cost of prettied up but not updated in the $900 to $1,300 range. To tell what you're buying you take 25 minutes to tear them down to find the junk parts, if the gun dealer will let you or knows how to open it up.
I would never recommend that anyone buy a post war commercial or a current newly manufacturer.
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