Has anyone viewed one of these scopes? This, for my purposes, seems to be the ultimate scope for my style of hunting/shooting. The low end magnification is great for spot/stalk, and the high end is great for the LR stuff. It has a good range of 65 MOA elevation. The only drawback I see is the $1400 it costs. Can I get some feedback?
IOR 3-18x scopes
- Thread starter sewwhat89
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Well, they are roughly 1/2 what some other top glass would cost, similar to NF and top end Leupold. My favorite scopes that I own right now are a pair of Zeiss 4.5x14. I did not want to compromise on my last scope purchase, but I had to to get the 3x scope. I bought a 3x9 Tactical scope just for the 'better' optics so I would have the greater FOV needed for hunting in some of the bottomlands I hunt in; however, when I come out, I am either on a major powerline or pipeline with shots realistically out to several hundred yards. I greatly desire the higher magnification so I can better evaluate/score deer that provide me with shots. For my eyes, 9x doesn't cut it out to 300 yards and beyond. It is getting to the point where I feel like the 14x is almost not enough. In comes the 3x18 IOR. . . . It seems to be ideal for what I want to do, and I will not be hindered at the range when I want to shoot from the 500m bench. The 14x scopes are hard to keep focused with my eyes on the 4-5" diamonds at that range. I think the 18x may even be able to see 3" diamonds clearly. For me it is an 'aim small, miss small' proposition.
One vote for, any on else?
One vote for, any on else?
Spotcheck_Billy
When you buy IOR keep the importers customer service in mind. If you have problems with the scope it must go back to Romania in most cases. This is where the importer/distributor often drops the ball. I personally know of two cases where the scopes in question took over six months to make it back to the owners. Both owners would have been better off dealing directly with the factory! I've also heard of cases where the importer basically said "too bad" and did nothing for the customers when they were dissatisfied with the performance of their scopes. The importer I'm referring to's name begins with the letter 'V'.
If you decide to buy IOR I can tell you that Liberty Optics will take care of you. Customer service beyond compare. I've got no connection to Liberty and do not profit from my recommendation. I just feel that their outstanding customer service rates some recognition in the shooting community.
If you decide to buy IOR I can tell you that Liberty Optics will take care of you. Customer service beyond compare. I've got no connection to Liberty and do not profit from my recommendation. I just feel that their outstanding customer service rates some recognition in the shooting community.
Spotcheck,
You actually experienced these, or you have "heard of" them?
I've seen beau coup posts complaining about folks hearing about Val's customer service from days gone by. But I personally have had nothing but exemplary handling of the one issue that I have had.
Now, if you don't read the instructions and loosen the mag-lock or take the screws out of the turrets, that's not warranty, that is natural selection.
While I have bought all of my scopes through Scott Berish at Liberty Optics, I have met Val at SHOT several times and have dealt directly with him about a scope issue. It was handled promptly and completely to my satisfaction. I actually had a new scope in hand inside of a week. Hard to beat that.
The man truly cares about not only the scopes that they make, but the shooters that use them. Val simply wants is to put a good optic in the shooters hands. He really does care. I like that.
You actually experienced these, or you have "heard of" them?
I've seen beau coup posts complaining about folks hearing about Val's customer service from days gone by. But I personally have had nothing but exemplary handling of the one issue that I have had.
Now, if you don't read the instructions and loosen the mag-lock or take the screws out of the turrets, that's not warranty, that is natural selection.
While I have bought all of my scopes through Scott Berish at Liberty Optics, I have met Val at SHOT several times and have dealt directly with him about a scope issue. It was handled promptly and completely to my satisfaction. I actually had a new scope in hand inside of a week. Hard to beat that.
The man truly cares about not only the scopes that they make, but the shooters that use them. Val simply wants is to put a good optic in the shooters hands. He really does care. I like that.
Spotcheck_Billy
usngunner,
One of the members of our gun club had an IOR at the club range and was having a lot of trouble with the parallax adjustment. He is a very experienced shooter with over thirty years in the game. I was shooting two benches down from him, also zeroing in a new scope, when he asked me to help. His new scope was obviously defective. Couldn't dial out the parallax at all. At the next club meeting he related to me that when he called Val's company in Steamboat Springs CO whoever he spoke to,employee?) had a bad attitude from the get-go. The scope was brand new, but they wouldn't replace it. It had to go back to the factory for repair. To make a long story short, it took six months to make it back to him, after repeated calls to Val, several different stories and lots of excuses. Poor customer service in my book.
OK, so this is only one incident and you can't judge somebody on one experience. A little over a year later I was corresponding with a friend who lives in another state. He e-mailed me with a very similar story. This time, after waiting for months to get his scope back he wrote to the factory and found out that the importer held his scope for over a month until he had several scopes to send back at the same time, and worse yet, the importer had his scope back from Romania for several weeks before he shipped it back to him. Another instance of poor CS!
I was at a sniper match a couple of years ago when a competitor down the line started losing shots. When the match was over he told everybody within earshot about his problems with IOR. His scope was tracking intermittantly, sometimes following the clicks that he dialed into it, and other times not responding to the dial. When he called the importer about it he was told to dial it up past the point he wanted to go and then dial it back down again to where he wanted it!! He said that he told them that it wasn't supposed to be like that, and they more or less told him that's the way it was, and too bad.
I didn't post this to discourage anyone from buying IOR, nor do I intend to badmouth Val. He has some obstacles to overcome because of past CS problems. I sincerely hope that he's improved his CS with his move to a new location. I believe IOR to be a good scope for the money, if the factory can keep up with their QC, and keep a tight rein on their dealers.
The intent of my post was to inform the OP of the potential pitfalls of buying any scope - not just IOR - without checking on the CS of the dealer, and to praise Liberty Optics for providing some of the best CS that I'm aware of.
I apologize for this long-winded post, but I felt that I had to explain my original post in greater detail, since you asked
One of the members of our gun club had an IOR at the club range and was having a lot of trouble with the parallax adjustment. He is a very experienced shooter with over thirty years in the game. I was shooting two benches down from him, also zeroing in a new scope, when he asked me to help. His new scope was obviously defective. Couldn't dial out the parallax at all. At the next club meeting he related to me that when he called Val's company in Steamboat Springs CO whoever he spoke to,employee?) had a bad attitude from the get-go. The scope was brand new, but they wouldn't replace it. It had to go back to the factory for repair. To make a long story short, it took six months to make it back to him, after repeated calls to Val, several different stories and lots of excuses. Poor customer service in my book.
OK, so this is only one incident and you can't judge somebody on one experience. A little over a year later I was corresponding with a friend who lives in another state. He e-mailed me with a very similar story. This time, after waiting for months to get his scope back he wrote to the factory and found out that the importer held his scope for over a month until he had several scopes to send back at the same time, and worse yet, the importer had his scope back from Romania for several weeks before he shipped it back to him. Another instance of poor CS!
I was at a sniper match a couple of years ago when a competitor down the line started losing shots. When the match was over he told everybody within earshot about his problems with IOR. His scope was tracking intermittantly, sometimes following the clicks that he dialed into it, and other times not responding to the dial. When he called the importer about it he was told to dial it up past the point he wanted to go and then dial it back down again to where he wanted it!! He said that he told them that it wasn't supposed to be like that, and they more or less told him that's the way it was, and too bad.
I didn't post this to discourage anyone from buying IOR, nor do I intend to badmouth Val. He has some obstacles to overcome because of past CS problems. I sincerely hope that he's improved his CS with his move to a new location. I believe IOR to be a good scope for the money, if the factory can keep up with their QC, and keep a tight rein on their dealers.
The intent of my post was to inform the OP of the potential pitfalls of buying any scope - not just IOR - without checking on the CS of the dealer, and to praise Liberty Optics for providing some of the best CS that I'm aware of.
I apologize for this long-winded post, but I felt that I had to explain my original post in greater detail, since you asked
There is nothing wrong with IOR.The old ones had problems.I have a 6-24x50 IOR and the glass is clearer than nightforce and blows leopold away.IOR uses german glass leopold uses jap glass.Give scott a liberty optics a call,he stands by his products.Go to sniper hide forum and there will be a lot of post for the new 3-18x42 IOR scope.Leopold cant even compare to IOR prices and lens quility and IOR comes with rings too.
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